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    VI is love, VI is life (jlai.lu)
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    [–] geoff@lemm.ee 47 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Emacs

    (ducks)

    [–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I use vi from an Emacs Shell, which was spawned from an Emacs GUI.

    [–] Xanza@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

    bro tryin' to summon a demon... /s

    [–] amon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

    Emacs is what the unified linux desktop should be

    [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

    I dislike Evil, and would never recommend it to anyone looking for a modal editing solution for Emacs. I would rather break my pinky with the modifiers than use Evil.

    • Evil is SLOOWWW: its startup time is 10x longer than other modal editing packages.
    • It has high cost of integration with other packages; editing-related packages rarely play well with Evil unless specifically designed for it.
    • We can do better than vi. Nowadays, there are some more modern alternatives to vi, like Kakoune that fix some of the fundamental problems with vi. One such problem is the fact that you cannot know what you are acting on until after the command completes: Kakoune solves this by having a unique noun verb syntax rather than vi's verb noun syntax. This means that you get constant feedback about what you’re acting on before you act on it, since objects are always highlighted.

    Instead, for anyone looking for a serious and actually good modal editing, I would suggest them to try out meow. It fixes all of the problems I mentioned above, and makes more improvements to the vi experience that I didn't mention.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] littleomid@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    EMACS. It’s the superior text editor.

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I'd say it's a superior text editor.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    It's a text editor?

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

    I suppose I tend to think of it more as a Lisp interpreter that's capable of self-extension.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    link the vi command to emacs, and you'll be able to say you use vi

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    you'll be able to say you use vi

    I haven't wanted to say that in the 32 years I've had the choice.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

    oh ok then link the emacs command to vi and you'll be able to keep saying you use emacs while using a better text editor πŸ‘

    (please dont kill me this is a joke i dont even use vi please have mercy please spare me please please please)

    [–] fayoh@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

    This is the way.

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

    Emacs

    It's a sound choice. I don't like to use it, personally, because I want to use something that uses same motions and syntax as editors on servers that I don't own (ex. customers). And, I'm not a fan of Lisp. It's a great and (self-)extensible text editor/lisp interpreter, though.