this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2025
2080 points (100.0% liked)

World News

44442 readers
2574 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 412 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

fuck trump fuck vance fuck musk fuck putin

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And his most heroic act was not punching the old fart in the teeth

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I imagine it would be quite cathartic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Most people would have taken the ride offer out of Kiev in 2022. That alone made him a hero. This new incident just adds even more to his hero status

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Edit: Not you specifically, just in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, because we learned that if you don't counter trolls some people will believe every goddamn word they say and then vote the trolls into office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Counter argue with someone, sure. But pushing gruel into the troll never changes the troll, it just makes you more bitter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

You're not trying to change the troll—you're showing the onlookers that the troll is an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lol if you honestly believe that, that’s ur issue

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lol if you honestly don't believe that, that's ur issue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ll believe that sitting in the house I own. Go pay rent

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

makes low effort shitpost comments to shit-stir

gets mad when someone does the same back at them

lol. Lmao, even. 🤡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, are you upset your favourite orange sack of shit is the laughing stock of the world, while Zelenskyy is unanimously praised?

Aw.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lol then go move to Ukraine if you wanna suck him so badly dawg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know that's very natural for you to go around sucking off every man with a raised voice, but I'm not a republican, I don't do that. Thanks for the offer, you do you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

He's far from being a hero. Zelenskyy just happens to be the president of a country being invaded, if trump was in his place you would be here calling him a hero. Zelenskyy is the president of an authoritarian government who turned to martial law and is drafting people by force while not allowing any male between 18-60 to leave the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine#2024

"In 2023, harsher methods of mobilization began to be used, such as road blocks, business raids, and pulling people from the streets. In the latter half of 2023, videos surfaced online showing Ukrainian men violently dragged into vans and driven to the military recruiting centers"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANxo0gBM6GM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhC8WREVKM

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy is the president of an authoritarian government who turned to martial law

Active invasion of their country from Belarus and Russia. What a brain dead take.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Russia

Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics

The mobilization was accompanied by mass raids on men of military age. In the enterprises of the region, up to 80% of employees were called up, which led to shutdown of mines and public transport, as well as the paralysis of cities and public services. To avoid mobilization, residents hid or tried to illegally leave the republics.[21]

Recruitment of prisoners

Implementation

It was reported that Russian authorities were targeting poor, homeless and people from poorer regions of Russia for conscription.[79][80] Russian authorities drafted detained protestors with no previous military experience, including a 17-year-old boy who was arrested at an anti-war demonstration in Moscow.[81]

On 14 April 2023, Putin signed into law a bill that would allow authorities to issue electronic summons to draftees.[92][93] The law blocks anyone eligible for military service who has received a digital summons from leaving the country.[94] Russian lawyer Valeria Vetoshkina called it a "hidden mobilization." According to Russian economist Konstantin Sonin, "Now, any person, regardless of whether he took a summons or not, [or] has an account with Gosuslugi or not, can be arrested and convicted for not going to war."[95] Russian lawyer and human rights activist Ivan Pavlov said that the "only option is to leave the country as soon as possible, but there is very little time for that."[96]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for reporting on the draft in russia too. Forced conscription is form of slavery and a violation of human rights, it should be abolished and every person should fight against it and against the governments forcing it on people.

When two countries drafting people by force and not allowing them to leave the country get into a war you get a total disaster where poor people are forced to murder each others. The rulers and government behind these authoritarian polices are criminal and enemies of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When two countries drafting people by force and not allowing them to leave the country get into a war you get a total disaster where poor people are forced to murder each others

In this situation, one country got into a war. The other is defending its sovereign territory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So if russia were to be attacked by china would it be ok for them to draft people by force to defend their sovereign territory? If you were someone living in russia would you be ok with putin goons arresting you if you try to leave the country?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't like, every country do the draft in WW2 and it was barely enough to defeat the Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Just about every country, yes. A few remained neutral, but there weren’t very many comparatively.