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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

NATO hasn't "expanded" in a long time, until recently when Sweden and Finland decided to join. A decision that was made based on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. So through Russia's actions, two countries have decided to join an organisation that was made to opposed Russia.

Before that, no new members were accepted into NATO, even if they wanted to join, because NATO members weren't really seeing the point of NATO anymore, and they didn't see a reason to provoke Russia. That changed in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine for the first time, and annexed Crimea.

Last but not least; NATO doesn't expand. It's not a nation with borders that grow through conquest or subjugation. It is a defensive pact that the peolpe of a nation must vote on to join. And then the members of NATO must unanimously vote on letting the new country join. It is voluntary and democratic.

So instead of shoutong "NATO IS EXPANDING, GRRR!!", why not ask yourself "why would Russia's neighbouring countries want to join NATO?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Completely untrue. NATO has been expanding since the 90’s.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course it has. Of course it has. I mean, if your dillusions help you find your happy place, who am I to judge, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Fact check me.