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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The president can Pardon himself and his buddies. Your points mean nothing. The glorious leader is free to do as he likes. That is the world we live in now. Time to wake up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You're still too narrowly focused.

The courts can and still do order the executive branch to follow the law, and undo unlawful actions, and order them to follow the law into the future. That's the whole reason why at any given time there are thousands of lawsuits against the government under the Administrative Procedure Act, and the type of lawsuit being brought against Trump's new policies.

If he ignores court orders, that's a constitutional crisis, but it also really fucks up his chain of command. Elon Musk can't fire thousands of people or freeze thousands of contracts, he has to direct the thousands of people who actually control those things to do the paperwork to do that, and those individual civil servants won't violate court orders.

The lawsuits are important, and people need to not roll over and just accept Trump's illegal actions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pardons don't protect against civil liability. Example: a pardoned person won't go to prison for shooting someone in the leg. But the person who got shot can still sue for pain and suffering etc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Civil Liability has done nothing to stop the president from doing anything he wants. Even with judgements against him he says the same things and does the same things. It means nothing other than costing him some money.