Just a reminder - Thomas and Alito would happily sell out the country for a few thousand bucks.
this post was submitted on 05 Mar 2025
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Since the court has made it so the President can do anything without risk, why would he listen to you now? There are no consequences for him doing anything.
This is a misconception that should stop.
The Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch can't bring criminal charges against someone for acts that were done as President.
Here's what that doesn't stop:
- Criminal cases against the former president for non-official acts.
- Civil cases against the former president for acts, whether official or non-official.
- Criminal charges against anyone else who wasn't literally the president
- Civil cases against the government, its agencies, its officers, or its employees.
The Supreme Court fucked up when it said prosecutors can't use official acts as evidence relating to unofficial acts, which basically made it impossible to prosecute a whole bunch of types of crimes.
But what it doesn't do is stop people from suing the government, here and now, for breaking the law, or stop the courts from ordering the government to comply with the law.
And the scope of immunity covers only the President personally. Any other adviser, employee, or officer can still be prosecuted for breaking the law, including following the President's illegal orders.
Part of the Trump strategy right now is to demoralize the opposition and make us believe that he actually has all the power. He doesn't, at least not yet. We shouldn't make it easy for him by assuming that he can break the law with impunity, and instead we should make sure we continue to do everything in our power to hold him and everyone who helps implement his agenda accountable.
The president can Pardon himself and his buddies. Your points mean nothing. The glorious leader is free to do as he likes. That is the world we live in now. Time to wake up.
Pardons don't protect against civil liability. Example: a pardoned person won't go to prison for shooting someone in the leg. But the person who got shot can still sue for pain and suffering etc
Civil Liability has done nothing to stop the president from doing anything he wants. Even with judgements against him he says the same things and does the same things. It means nothing other than costing him some money.
You're still too narrowly focused.
The courts can and still do order the executive branch to follow the law, and undo unlawful actions, and order them to follow the law into the future. That's the whole reason why at any given time there are thousands of lawsuits against the government under the Administrative Procedure Act, and the type of lawsuit being brought against Trump's new policies.
If he ignores court orders, that's a constitutional crisis, but it also really fucks up his chain of command. Elon Musk can't fire thousands of people or freeze thousands of contracts, he has to direct the thousands of people who actually control those things to do the paperwork to do that, and those individual civil servants won't violate court orders.
The lawsuits are important, and people need to not roll over and just accept Trump's illegal actions.
For me this is really hitting home that he can just cancel defence contracts, start investigations into the EPA without evidence in an attempt to seize grants, and freeze funds for the medical care of 79 Million Americans and then every cocksucking Republican in Congress gives him a standing ovation.
And this is just the second month.
Supreme Court torn on whether or not the federal government is required to follow through with legally binding contracts to pay people for work they've already done
Fuckin' clowncar.
I sure hope he listens to the courts. 🤞
Been saying all along, this Court is not partisan, they are conservative. Can't see why everyone thinks they're automatically going to rule for Trump when they've ruled against him many times in the past. They got their seats, they owe him nothing, and he has jack shit to say about it.
Also, they produced a couple of dozen rulings that MAGA would call liberal, and I've got the links to prove it. They were on quite a roll until they dropped the abortion ruling.
Then you got Alito and Thomas, bought and paid for. I'd swap those two assholes for any conservative who would at least rule according to their own beliefs. May not like it, but I'll take honesty over bribery.
Biden really fucked up by not expanding the court. Remember your American history classes? Presidents used to pull big, bold moves. Well, the last 2 Democratic presidents tried to play fair and now we got our big, bold President.