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Tim Walz says he and Harris were too ‘safe’ during 2024 presidential campaign
(www.theguardian.com)
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See that's funny because every single left leaning moderate I know (including myself) thinks they were/are way too left and they need to "come back towards center" so to speak.
For people even sorta in the middle both parties appear to be playing a game where they sprint as fast as they can towards extremism and most people aren't down with that.
They don't need to try and court moderate Republicans. They need to gain back the moderate lefties they lost over the last 10+ years.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/democratic-party-left-liberal-q-poll/index.html
I know that Lemmy has very different views on the topic, but you guys are the extreme left. So of course you find the Democrats trying to go back towards getting moderate vote again as the "wrong move". Unfortunately you guys (I am speaking broadly at the general political leanings of Lemmy I know you guys arent all far left) are the minority of the total political spectrum these days.
Hey I'm curious, what do you think about the Democrats is "too far left"? Like actual policies because the article you linked lists 4 positions that aren't a part of the parties platform and never have been.
I was really curious. Hopefully they will come back.
They did and are refusing to answer. They're just a conservative that's larping as a Democrat for internet points.
If you're a 'left leaning moderate' that thinks the democrats are too left, you're right-wing. The democratic party in the US is a center-right party.
My political stances didn't change. I was firmly left in ~2012 and now you guys call me right wing. Who moved?
You do know the American political compass is special among political compasses, right? Compared to Europe (or even Canada), our definition of "moderate" is their equivalent of "conservative". Likewise, our "left" is "center".
Wishing the already-not-left Democratic Party starts shifting even more right is wishing for a two-party system where the options are conservatism and fascism.
I'm not talking about a global scale. I'm just talking about the US and how those terms are used here.
I'm not touching that broader conversation about political scales globally.
Here in the US both parties have been running in opposite directions and in most people's eyes the left has been running faster. Hence the article. One of many that found similar data when polling americans. Most Americans are somewhere in the middle and that is crux of the issue.
Yeah, no.
The only thing that has shifted left in the Democratic Party is the public's perception of them. They intentionally fuck over actual leftists (aka progressives) within their party while offering up milquetoast policies that look progressive on paper but are either completely toothless or designed to benefit to their corporate lobbyists first and foremost.
They're a conservative party who used rainbow capitalism to masquerade as the comparatively left-wing alternative to the Republican Party. The reality is that every election cycle in the past two decades, they're promising more "liberal" ideas while acting more conservative. Do you know who had a record number of deportations under their administration? It's not Trump. It's not Obama. It's Biden.
Anybody that thinks the Democratic Party is sliding any direction other than right is either right-wing and arguing in bad faith, an anti-"woke" moron like Elon Musk, or consuming too much Fox News.
Fucking moderates.
Yeah keep that up. I'm sure you guys are totally gonna win in 2028 by continuing to alienate anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% across the board.
Fucking progressives.
Ironic, isn't that exactly what you're doing, dingus?
No. I'm pointing out how disconnected from reality the far left (Lemmy) is.
Of the two political parties of the US right now only one is going to kick you out immediately for disagreeing with them on certain things. The other one doesn't really care if you have different opinions on certain topics.
The Ideological homogeneity required by today's left/democrats pushes out so many people that I don't think they will be able to win another election again.
I want the Democrats to have viable candidates and run on good policy again, but more than anything I want them to shed this inflexible and dogmatic voter base they have been fostering over the last 16 years.
My user note on you and vague memory of your post history determined this to be a blatant lie. You claim to be that, but you most certainly are not
Yes I've gone over this with various users on here already. You have me tagged as a Republican or whatever, but every single time anyone has asked me about specific stances they find that I am not.
This is exactly the type of shit I am talking about. The modern left only accepts people who agree with them on all things and think exactly like them. Any slight deviation is viewed as a threat and shoved forcefully away.
I have you tagged as a Conservative, actually, which is accurate based on your repeated comments spewing right-wing bullshit like transphobic lies
No, just most things, especially the big and easy ones
I'm not conservative at all lmao. Y'all kill me with that shit.
Holding the opinion that biological women and trans women are not the same and shouldn't be treated as such just means I have eyeballs and a functioning brain. I don't think they deserve any hatred or attacks. I simply don't think they should be playing sports along side biological women because they are not physically the same as biological women. I think trans people deserve as much love and respect anybody else. I just do not subscribe to your delusional world where they are also 100% exactly the same as their bilogical mirror. There are differences and no matter what you say it won't change those facts.
I don't agree with you on all things but I know you are well intentioned so I could happily co-exist with you.
I'm just guessing here (feel free to correct me) that because of my opinions on this topic you would not wish to associate with me whatsoever and you probably think I am evil right?
That is the difference I am talking about.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Denies being a duck.
You know it's hard to tell who's actually a duck anymore when you call anyone that blinks differently than you a duck.
Bro, look at the total stream of your comments. You spent a whole day arguing with god knows how many people about different iterations of this same accusation, basically that you are a dem but everyone keeps calling you conservative.
Maybe the problem here is you, give that a thought. Or dont. I dont care what you do. But your single note woe-is-me trolling is disengenuous and tedious, and maybe you could tone that down a bit and comment less, or with a little more diversity of thought.
I have not once claimed I am currently a dem on this website. I have said Multiple times that I used to be one. I've been an independent since 2016.
Multiple people on Lemmy have marked me as a conservative/Republican incorrectly because I have one or two stances that don't align with the left and they assume that I must be a full on Trumpy because of that.
You can see right there that most of my opinions land me pretty much smack dab in the middle of most categories.
68.7% predjudicial is why you run into problems with dems. So maybe stop commenting on dem issues-- you're not a dem, so youre just trolling. No one likes a troll.
You cant tell me what to do.
I am not going to stop commenting on Dems issues as I want the democratic party to un fuck itself sometime before I die.
You're proving my point for me again "oh look you have one thing we don't like you need to get outta here".
I'm not trolling. You can look through all my comments on here. I never delete any comments (unless there is a glitch and I accidentally duplicate a response or something) so my entire post history is there. Feel free to read around the various topics I drop in and talk about. You will see I am not a troll.
ok conservative.
You're more right than left on 4/5 of those axis, yet you think you're on the left? Overall you're ~22% more conservative than liberal: that's significant
Oh, and the one axis giving you "liberal" points is the auth/libertarian one, which usually doesn't have jack shit to do with left/right (you can be very pro-restriction and be leftist, those are called tankies)
So maybe you need to re-think yourself or your beliefs, they don't seem to align with reality
...that's not how those bars work lol. You think the right stands for anarchy? Lmao.