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Yes, but the unavoidable advertising of those cosmetics frequently drag down the experience when there are multiple click through screens and progress bars on battle passes the player didn't buy and a ton of other negatives that have nothing to do with whether cosmetics affect game play. Free to play frequently means 'annoying nag menus'.
I happened to focus on getting their money early and calling a reset of their fake money a refund being misleading.
It also happens that my experience with early access free to play was Multiversus, where they took a moderately OK early access game that added mtx, then went silent for months and came back as a trash version of the same game with even more mtx. This being EA I expect them to go even harder into the mtx at the expense of game play.
You just made all that up. None of that is even tangentially related to the thing that actually happened.
I mean, now we're arguing that this weird ploy to extract more money for cosmetics is probably going to harm gameplay (even though it's unrelated to gameplay) because a different game from a different company also had MTX which were also not related to the bad gameplay changes they made.
I don't know what to argue there. It's entirely irrational.
To be clear, it's not irrational that F2P games often push monetization in intrusive ways that are annoying. It's not irrational that Multiversus had a very weird history and a poor relaunch. But the way you're connecting those pieces along with a healthy dose of entirely disconnected preconceptions based on branding is completely off the rails.
This is why this is so frustrating to me. People just want to be mad at things because some other things that are unrelated made them mad once and they want to just smear the anger a bit. It's pure mob mentality and I fully admit that it pisses me off in games as a proxy for how much of it informs modern society and politics in general. Which I guess I'm doing, too, a little bit. But still.
Or maybe they are annoyed by the things they gave examples of instead of being some kind of crazy conspiracy.
But it IS a crazy conspiracy... theory. "Skate testing its MTX during an alpha means that they will be a scam at launch and/or impact gameplay because Multiversus also had MTX and that had a bad relaunch" is a complete non-sequitur. This is cavemen sacrificing goats to make it rain levels of random event association.
So I have to conclude the emotional layer is what matters here. Being mad loudly online at a frequent punching bag with a bad reputation is sheer mob-induced dopamine and that's why that headline exists and why this conversation happens. And why social media exists and is killing liberal democracy, but that's probably beyond the scope of this thread.
Or maybe they are a punching bag because of the things they repeatedly do, did you consider that?
It isn't like multiversus is the only one that did this. I clearly said they were an example of a larger trend.
I did! And if this conversation was even remotely related to any of them I'd give it more consideration.
But people read "microtransactions in Alpha", which was clickbaity on purpose, did not read the game was free to play, which was hidden at the bottom of the article on purpose, and got mad anyway.
So proxy for the disintegration of public discourse it is.
You keep acting like those are different concerns, but the reason for concern is the combination of mtx, free to play, and being in alpha.
What combination? The game was announced as F2P a while ago, it's been running tests for a while and was always assumed to have MTX. The only thing that changed is they will make the MTX live during a test run and then refund them, which is not particularly rare.
If you must know, it normally has as much to do with seeing how popular your ideas for cosmetics are as it does with testing that your commerce system works properly.
But none of that is what's sparking the fake outrage.
So you refuse to accept that people mean what they say and feel the need to defend a for profit company by twisting any complaints into some kind of faked outrage conspiracy.
Have fun with that.
No, I am seeing what people say and how it relates to reality, then deriving conclusions from that.
For instance, my conclusions just got significantly reinforced by the fact that you're framing my stance as "defending" the subject of built-in outrage because of what or who they are, as opposed to what they did.
That's a meaningful part of that statement. Unintended, for sure... but meaningful.
I don't think interacting with your reality is very productive.