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Did you not even bother to read the paragraphs I quoted? You have no clue what you're talking about
honestly don't see this in all that stuff you copy pasted
you conflate zionist with the mania of this last war, zionist used to just mean jews that want their own country
morris acknowledges the bad that was done in the war that led to the naqba, but saw it as the only option where the palestinians would never settle for peace and hadn't done for 20 years
No it doesn't, as discussed at length in the first section you didn't read twice. You have no clue what you're talking about. It's not a copypasta if I'm the one who read all the sources I sourced and provided relevant paragraphs and links all of which I've personally read, genius.
what is discussed at length? palestinians not making peace?
Maybe read it before you try to argue stuff that's already within the damn reply
https://lemmy.world/comment/15619463
what exactly in what i said is discussed at length?
No, Zionism has always been about the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians since it's inception. Partition was a deliberate tactic to set the stage for plan dalet which was also planned. You keep repeating these myths. Section 2, Partition, shows how the Nakba was not "the only option" it was intentional. I provided multiple books that go into depth exactly how these myths are untrue and don't reflect the reality of the history.
when the ottoman empire was defeated both the arabs and the jews suddenly realised they had a chance of their own state
the arabs started attacking the british and the jews and the jews started attacking the british and the arabs
finally the british left and it was the arabs vs the jews
the arabs lost, big time, and kept losing for the next 80 years
i'm sure i can find a couple of books that say that as well
Sure, books written by Zionists who see Palestinians as subhuman. Good for you. Enjoy justifying ethnic cleansing and genocide. You clearly have no interest in human rights or the reality of Israel Palestine.
quite the opposite; there's lots of non-genocidal zionists that wish october 7th had never happened and the war had never happened and wish the settlers in the west bank were in jail
but they are also sick and tired of the palestinian militant zealots pretending they and the surrounding arab states are just the victims for 100 years
for peace to happen both sides need to dig deep into reality
No, there isn't. All zionists support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. If they didn't, they would be anti-zionists. Of which there are a few hundred of within Israel. If they genuinely wanted peace and an end to the anti-apartheid resistance, they would end the fucking apartheid.
a few hundred, lol, that's very accurate!
neither side genuinely wants peace, they're still at war, there are still hostages
The hostages are under the rubles with the rest, idiot. Do you not get what carpet bombing mean
now that's a freudian slip if ever there was one. you mean rubble of course
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Israel has never had interest in peace, you fail to comprehend that.
they better update that charter again to catch up with whatever they made up this week
i'm guessing you want the struggle to carry on because daddy putin needs it to use antisemitism to his advantage around the world
Fuck Putin and fuck you. I don't support any fascist.
oh congratulations you appear to have some principles
unlike hamas who like to pop over to russia from time to time for a nice chat
and a few in the past had dalliances with a mr hitler, the enemy of my enemy as they say
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
I wonder if you ever uttered something truthful or honest once in your life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Hamas_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Russia_relations
thanks for the info!
amazing what you can find on wikipedia these days