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Star Trek is canonically socialist according to Strange New Worlds (youtu.be)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There’s that assumption again, pointing out what is is does not imply support thereof but sure, strawman it up if you feel that necessary.

Look we're gonna have to agree to disagree on everything else, but i take exception to being accused of straw manning you. This is no straw man. you said you do not support socialist politicians NOW, but you would if replicators existed. Please clarify if you misspoke.

You: "that society is ideal but I don’t like anyone that would being about that society I just want to snap my fingers and end up in post scarcity utopia."

Me: "My point is, if we had essentially an infinite supply of food and other goods, wouldn’t you feel more comfortable supporting people who would “bring about” that society? Wouldn’t you feel a moral imperative to support such a society?"

You: "I would"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You get you're in a starfleet sub right, we're 100% talking about storylines. It doesn't change anything either way but still.

That's literally the plot of the movement towards the federation.... Again part of a foundational storyline. If the people who are withholding the replicators don't want you to have them you won't have them given the fact they could create robots and weapons until the end of time and people tend to be much easier to kill and harder to replace than an automaton anyway.

Point to where I said I do not support socialist politicians. I'll wait, I imagine your incredible lack of imagination led you to believe the example of cognitive dissonance in my original comment was my actual opinion...

I would feel more comfortable supporting people who would bring about that society, capitalists would not. Hence your clipping of the comment to fit your narrative that didn't make sense of you read the whole comment.

Ed: for reference:

I would, capitalists would not and do not which is why capitalism persists today let alone some future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You get you’re in a starfleet sub right, we’re 100% talking about storylines. It doesn’t change anything either way but still.

you get that we can have discussions and make comments that don't directly relate to any storylines, right?

Point to where I said I do not support socialist politicians. I’ll wait, I imagine your incredible lack of imagination led you to believe the example of cognitive dissonance in my original comment was my actual opinion…

So you're saying this isn't your opinion? How am I supposed to know that? This is something you could have clarified in the earlier post where i quoted it.

“that society is ideal but I don’t like anyone that would being about that society"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

We could, in this instance we weren't though.

Duh, it's literally not what I said if you read what I wrote.

“that society is ideal but I don’t like anyone that would being about that society"

That's an example of cognitive dissonance with correct context, and it's fun to know I was right and that your lack of imagination or reading comprehension led you to believe an example was an opinion. I'm not gonna call you dumb for it but I am going to imply that pursuing this conversation and doubling down would be stupid especially if you decide to delve into my comment history.