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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (58 children)

Could you explain to non-Americans what is the appeal of student loans if they can do this? Why shouldn't people go to cheaper schools to get their degrees instead? I mean no disrespect, if you are rich go to Yale or whatever, by all means.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Children are told that they MUST go to college to get a stable and high paying job. This is so prevalent that college degrees are just seen as “the next step after high school” and nobody questions it. These colleges have figured out they can charge almost anything because they are seen as the gate keepers to high paying and stable jobs. So banking on future earnings, bearly emancipated teenagers, with the absolute minimum of a financial education, make life decisions that will put them in debt for the next 20-30 years.

The problem with the whole system is there doesn’t appear to be enough high paying and stable jobs.

As far as going to a cheaper college, I think you identified the issue in your very own comment. Schools have different prestige levels. Yale, for example, is a high prestige school and not only are you paying for an education, you are also paying to connect to rich people. These connections can be worth a lot of money if they are used correctly. So going to a cheaper college also means less valuable connections.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Even beyond connections, just the sticker on a resumé that says "" means you're less likely to get shunted into the shitter with 95% of other applicants, if you don't already have an "in" that cuts past the resumé stage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this an intuition, or is it a known fact? Why would people do this? Do universities teach people to discriminate this way? Where do employers get these ideas? Is it something that permeates the whole society, or is it focused to applicant selection? Sorry for the many questions, I appreciate your response.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a Millennial (and now an adult), I will preface that I'm out of touch with the youths, so I don't know their perspective on colleges now. But it is common societal idea in the US. No company will openly put out notice that they are discriminating but the prestige US schools are more rigorous in their application screening and get more money, and so are expected to have more rigorous curricula/standards and better teaching. It has shifted so that non-Ivy League schools were becoming recognized in their fields for various subjects. But that just adds them to the "Prestige" category for those in the know.

When people look at a resume, it's sorted into "Prestige" and every other university. And prestige will take your further.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hilariously, as America progresses further into the dark ages, these "prestige" schools are increasingly becoming known for being degree mills who will sell a degree to any idiot with fat enough pockets to ask for one. Take the Trumps' history at Wharton for instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It probably always was. It's just that before rich people used to think being intelligent was a thing worth pursuing. The idea that you needed to be well-read and experienced to lead people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Indeed it's become an Open Secret that the only hard part about Ivy lease is getting in and that they give gentleman's c's to everyone .

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