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Trump gave ‘green light’ to Israel before Gaza bombing that left ‘400 dead,’ report says
(www.independent.co.uk)
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I don't care who gets bitchy over this;
America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.
Suck eggs, whenever you can save up for them. The stay-at-homes are just as guilty.
There was no chance under biden or harris that the genocide would end without running to completion. None. They're both centrists, and genocide is the only policy I've never seen a centrist abandon.
Voted harris but refuse to carry water for genocide supporters.
One of the parties is against the genocide in Ukraine. Funny how you people always forget about that one. Bit inconvenient for your narrative huh
What do you mean by "you people"?
Because in another recent discussion we had, you called me a russian, had that comment removed by the mods, and then whined about how unfairly you were being treated by the complicit mods for enforcing their rules.
This sure looks like you're trying to call me a russian again without saying it outright.
We should have used all the resources that we wasted supplying the genocide that centrists dearly love in Gaza and used them to shore up Ukraine. Instead, netanyahu got his weapons no questions asked, while Ukraine had to wait for democrats to play stupid games with immigration bills first before getting around to the tiresome obligation of making a token gesture toward preventing putin from steamrolling Europe.
Sorry your blue team proto-fascists couldn't contain their disgusting bloodthirst enough to win the election from the red team fascists. Think outside of this bullshit electoralist thinking for just a second.
Lol. You people are so silly.
Sorry your favorite genocider lost. But hey At least you can find comfort in the fact the other genocider was worst.
Fucking loser
Now I’m just convinced you’re a Russian troll, fucking idiot Nazi
Your head is so far up your ass no wonder you don’t get it and just make stupid assumptions
Stupid Nazi
Trump sugar boy made a Sig heil on live TV, idiot. You're the nazi
Here you go assuming stupid things again lmao. I’m just waiting for the special needs orangutan to be gunned down.
You seem to love him based on your comments you Nazi freak
Ah yes everybody's feeling contempts towards americans for their support for genocide is really a trumpist.
After all you know what? I'm just gonna say it. Fuck those people in gaza for costing us the elections. They just get what they deserve, right?
Right?
Hard disagree but go ahead and continue with your low IQ assumptions lol
Oh come on you guys are all thinking it. That feeling is expressed in this very thread. You hypocrite
Your empty arguments are turning into a snooze fest. Quit assuming things and go pound sand.
I'll vote so hard for the 3rd party next time! Just your wait and see
Read the last sentence again please
Nuance.
You got the genocide you wanted either way. Now you get the bonus of being able to blame the people who tried to warn you what was going to happen.
There was no chance to end genocide.
Grater than this 0% ? Sure was.
It was always 0% because genocide is bipartisan.
What makes you think there was a non zero chance with Harris? Anything she said or did? Because I got no indication from her campaign that there was any chance she'd end it
Not with pro-genocide centrists running against pro-genocide fascists.
Yes there was: not voting red or blue
Well, that's what happened and now you get extra genocide plus total capitulation to russia
Crazy that Americans couldn't come up with a third, non-genocidal option.
The way US elections work there mathematically cannot be a viable 3rd option.
If all third party voters swapped to Harris, she still would have lost. Vote shaming doesn't work and it's especially gross when it wouldn't even matter.
Based on the polls I saw, if 3rd party voters had voted Harris she would have won. Just going from memory, I'll have to look it up.
What's your plan to stop the genocide? Begging the parties behind it to stop it?
That was the false sense of superiority choice, not the end genocide choice.
You have to consider the choices' actual effects on the world.
Making the correct choice has nothing to do with feeling better than others, it simply is the correct thing to do.
All those dead people thank you for making the "correct" choice.
If dead people had something to say i don't think they would be happy about the parties that backed their genocide
Yeah man, do whatever you can to absolve your inaction. I bet they appreciate it. Because if Harris was president and this attack did not happen then I assume you're pretty culpable. But hey- you "followed your conscience." Great stuff.
I tell people to grow up all the time. Realize the world isn't perfect but sometimes you gotta make dirty decisions to bring about the greater good. But you'd rather feel smug than give a shit and actually have to make a hard decision. Hopefully you're just young and have time to grow. Honestly.
Do you understand that both the red and blue party are backing the genocide? If your relatives were dying in gaza would you really vote for the lesser evil of the two, or would you supporting a party that actually want to stop the genocide?
Voting is not going to be what ends the genocide.
probably not but breaking the red and blue duopoly can do some good.
That won't be done through voting either. Do you think Republicans are going to let themselves lose ever again?
There's a big amount of red voters unhappy with trump but that voted for him because in their eyes he's "lesser evil" than blue and because "there's no alternative".
Once a third party gain enough traction to break the narrative that only red or blue can win it will be a landslide. In europe third parties wins all the time.
What I mean is that Republicans are going to do everything they can to stop or rig elections so they don't have electoral consequences for Trump. Party organizing is going to need to take place outside of electoralism.
Suck eggs = children are dying and I’m gloating over it.
Anything to own the lefties though, eh.
Stopping the genocide was never a choice in the table with the red and blue party