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Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Musk’s daughter, accused her father of giving a “definitely Nazi salute” at two rallies in January, calling his actions “fucking cringe.”

In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trump’s administration.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are you suggesting that a kid doesn't have any insight into their parent's behavior and that "experts" do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, I'm saying she's not an historian specialized in Nazi Germany.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And you think that's required for recognizing a Nazi salute? That's whack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying that all experts agree it is so her opinion doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The experts say it's a Nazi salute. There's not a single credible person claiming it's not. If you can't tell what an expert is, you're likely not intelligent enough to take part in this conversation. You must be this tall to ride the ride.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should work on your reading comprehension.

All experts agree it is a Nazi salute, we don't need the opinion of people who have no expertise on the subject, even if they're somewhat related to Musk (considering how he wasn't involved as a father it's not as if her opinion of him is based on anything but his public persona).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So if we scoured your comment history, we won’t find you weighing your opinion in on things that you are not an expert in, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The difference is that my opinion doesn't get shared by The Guardian as if it was of any importance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For good reason. But unlike you, she is relevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Except that... She isn't.

The only thing that makes her a public figure right now is the fact that she's the daughter of a man that wasn't part of her life. Remove that and her opinion on his Nazi salute is no more important than yours or mine.

We shouldn't give attention to people whose only "credentials" is being someone's kid (especially if they don't personally know them anyway), it gives importance to something that doesn't say anything about their character or knowledge. She's not inheriting anything from him, she's irrelevant in humanity's history, just like you and me. She was pushed at the front of the scene for reasons she has no control over and that aren't relevant in her everyday life.

Now, show me she actually knows something about Nazis and that she has credentials to make her opinion worthy of being shared in the news and I'll shut up, until then I would much rather see the news relay the opinion of experts instead of the opinion of social media influencers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"We should listen to experts, not random people"

"Weird him to die on"

Guess you must listen to Joe Rogan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously? … it’s an article that is simply stating that his own daughter agrees with the experts. Why is this such a fucking problem for you?

Go find a hobby.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're still here replying to me so who needs a hobby?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I mean…

Personally, I think laughing at someone for being butthurt about an article that uses Elon’s daughter as a reference to lend credibility to Elon Musk being a fucking Nazi is less pathetic than someone being butthurt about an article that uses Elon’s daughter as a reference to lend credibility to Elon Musk being a fucking Nazi.

But that is just my personal opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point from the get go is that it doesn't add any credibility to it because she's got no expertise on either Nazis or Musk (having not had him in her life as he was an absent father).

Anyway I'm done with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And my point from the get-go is that no one cares that she’s got no expertise, she’s his DAUGHTER. This is why the story is relevant and people are interested.

It’s just an added bonus to point out to you that if you look around, you’ll notice that no one gave a shit how you feel about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to be to see it was not one but two nazi salutes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't, but her opinion is useless when all experts already agree that's what it was.

It's like asking actors their political opinion. Who gives a fuck what they think? They're actors, not political analysts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And yet, here you are with your opinion that no one asked for. Are you seeing how this works yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So you're saying my opinion is just as important as hers, she gets to share hers, I get to share mine, will The Guardian write an article about my opinion now? Are you seeing how this works yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, I’m saying she is relevant to the story. You aren’t. Yet here you are trying to erase her from it, while adding yourself to it- via the comments.

Yell all you want. She’s still going to have her say in legitimate news articles, while you’re relegated to ranting about it in forums located in the far reaches of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Musk was absent from her life, the only reason people talk about her is because she's her daughter even though she doesn't know him any better than you and me.

And again, her opinion on what constitutes a Nazi salute or not is irrelevant, just like a hockey player's opinion on climate change isn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A random person on the Internet, just like her, but my opinion isn't on The Guardian's website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol… your obsession with this has reached a comical level of absurdity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one asked you to reply to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nope. This is true. And no one asked you to get butthurt about an article and whine about it either, but here we are.