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Lemmy was a great idea. It put reddit into the users hands. Its fast, works well and gave the community control of its community

I'm not endorsing Seedit, but I support decentralized social media and want to share information for those who are interested. This is not promotion, im ust spreading awareness.

I know a lot of people here hate Reddit (rightfully so) because of how they keep banning people for their opinions. If you miss the old Reddit experience but want something that actually decentralized and can't be taken down, check out Seedit.

• Looks & feels like old Reddit

• Fully P2P on IPFS → No global admin to ban you

• You can self-host your own community

• ENS domains used for subplebbits

• MVP is coming in 2 weeks, and speed will improve

Right now, it's a bit slow, but once the MVP drops, it’ll be fast. If anyone is seriously interested in running a community, you can dm me I’ll buy an ENS for you.

Seedit doesn’t rely on any servers. It’s pure P2P, running entirely on IPFS. No central authority, it literally can't be taken down.

Seedit is NOT a Lemmy competitor. It’s part of the Plebbit protocol, which supports multiple UIs. In fact, a Lemmy-style UI is coming soon.

The code is fully open source, If you're into decentralization and open protocols, check it out.

https://github.com/plebbit/seedit

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fully P2P on IPFS → No global admin to ban you

How does it plan to deal with spam and csam?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

spam

each subplebbit has its own admins, who set up an anti-spam challenge which gets sent p2p to users when they publish to the sub. The cool thing is these challenges can be anything that can be code (anything: including PoW if they want to get spammed, or SMS auth, a captcha, a whitelist, a password, a time-based or usage-based challenge, biometrics to fight AI like worldcoin, whatever regularly centralized social media sites will end up using to fight spam)

csam

all data on plebbit is text-only, you cannot upload media. All media you see is embedded from centralized websites, with direct links, meaning if you post a link to csam from some site like imgur, imgur will ban you, take down the media (the embed returns 404, media disappears) and report your IP address to authorities. Plebbit is also not private, it works like torrents, your IP is in the swarm (even though the app and community can't see it, authorities can track it and figure out what you seeded, just like with torrents)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ok so bad privacy for one, but from way I see it, you can very well get banned just as much, it's just by community. If it were to become popular, massive blocklists would appear that most popular subs would subscribe to, making it a defacto service ban. Or as much of a ban as having a lemmy instance defederated from everywhere is.

Also relying on each sub to reinvent the anti-spam wheel feels suboptimal.

Also people who upload csam to random places for shock value are not afraid of "the authorities". How do you handle them constantly making new accounts and posting csam on your subs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

all data on plebbit is text-only, you cannot upload media.

I worry this still puts the "host" of a community at risk. In some jurisdictions, storing functional links to CSAM on your device, even in text form, is effectively the same thing as saving the actual media file locally. This means that a community admin would need to have some sort of system in place on their own machine to scan and remove those, which there doesn't currently seem to be a mechanism in place to do automatically.

Right now, it seems like a lot more responsibility for the end-user when creating a community, as opposed to the relatively consequence-free route of creating a community on Lemmy/Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Community moderation is the same as Lemmy/Reddit, Seedit community owners assign mods who have to keep the community clean, they can remove posts, mark them as nsfw/spoiler, ban users (from their community), banning a list of words or links to prevent users from publishing them, set up a mod queue (this is in the roadmap), etc.

It’s actually safer to run a community on Seedit, because it’s just a text file on IPFS that cannot include media files, and it’s not attached to any identity of the owner nor does it use centralized domains or SSL. There’s no IP logging, and the community owner can delete the community at any time, leaving no trace, since there’s no centralized database of communities.

And since all data is on IPFS, it’s not immutable, it can expire as soon as it has no more seeders. Compare this with blockchains, where text data is permanent, it can never be deleted once it’s in a block. Links to CSAM have been found in Bitcoin/Ethereum, and they can never get deleted.