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Election denialism without proof is just as dumb now as it was when Trump did it.
Spreading unfounded bullshit is how we got into this mess. It isn't welcome here.
No, it's not. The whole reason Trump lied about so much, and so often, was basically to poison the well, and cry wolf so many times that the opposition would look foolish to make the same claims.
He was doing that intentionally, knowing the whole time they had a plan to steal 24 and beyond.
In all honesty, there should always be hand recounts, period. Only frauds and idiots would have an issue with that.
There are hand recounts, audits and many other safeguards already prescribed by laws that have been in place across multiple presidencies both Democrats and Republicans have been in power and none were able to find anything but incredibly rare fraud done by individuals.
You are not alleging anything specific or providing any actual evidence of actual failures in the system on a scale that could have changed the outcome. This is just like in the Big Lie election denialism.
You're not talking about reality, you're trying to spread conspiracy and conjecture based on fear, uncertainty and doubt.
You are talking exactly like the people who promoted the Big Lie on the right. You're trying to poison people against our democratic systems with lies and conspiracy.
It's bullshit based on no evidence and reliant on people believing a conspiracy. You're spreading misinformation.
Except it's not. He won just barely beyond the threshold for an automatic recount in all seven swing states.
Statistically, the data does not align with non swing states. If you recall the Russian referendum that gave Putin more power, the data looks almost identical. Putin likely shared his methods with Trump and Elon. Big Balls is the grandson of a KGB agent, and Ethan Shao Tran made ballot reading software that had a write function. They quickly scrubbed his involvement from the project shortly after it came out. Why? What do they have to hide?
https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwheeler.bsky.social/post/3lhowh3ijgs2f
https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324-1.pdf
Thiel and Elon are tight from their PayPal days. Thiel has expressed that democracy is outdated and expressed desires for network states that sound straight out of 1984. This video does an in depth breakdown if you want to learn further. It's from 4 months ago and has been accurate so far.
https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no
If one does not believe in democracy, they wouldn't have any issues subverting it. Trump even said Elon was so good with those "vote counting computers" because he can't keep himself from bragging about it. Then Elon's kid who is not old enough to form his own thoughts said "they'll never know what we did" "we quietly do whatever we want." And since he's been Elon's 24/7 meat shield since Luigi happened, we can only assume he heard it from Elon.
I wanted hand recounts in November to verify this. We didn't get that. Now I want audits. The data is off. This isn't conjecture. Elon is not above manipulating data to get his way. Philip Low fired him with cause for trying to manipulate their stock. He's likely manipulated TSLA stock for years. He's manipulated his stupid path of exile account ffs.
As the other user mentioned. The whole charade in '20 was to poison the well so the Dems would be hesitant to look like hypocrites by calling it out in '24. Democracy is cooked now, and there's no voting this out. They have rigged it and fired all the watchdogs that ensure free and fair elections. We are fucked.
Does a video confession count?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-rigged-election-president/
"They rigged the election and I became president!"
Beginning at 2:46 for the whole quote.
No, because what you're referring to isn't a confession and calling it one is misleading.
Confessions involve admitting conduct that you personally were involved in. The linked article isn't a confession by any definition of the word.
If I say " killed a homeless person." Is that a confession of murder? Are you a murderer because "I confessed" that you did it?
In addition, from the article:
Saying "they rigged the election and I won" could have been referring to the 2020 election which, if you'll recall, Trump claimed the Democrats (they) rigged the election and also that he won the 2020 election.
The real question is, are you being misleading on purpose or are you ignorantly repeating things that you've seen elsewhere?
Agreed. What is 100% proven is the fact that Republicans targeted democrats and did voter roll purges. Unethical and a shitty tactic, but evidently legal. This resulted in a LOT of provisional ballots, which are not counted unless the election becomes close.