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Nah low value isn't about hobbies and stuff. That's teenager stuff.
It's quite easy.. be dependable, be able to communicate, be good looking, charisma, ...
Girls don't give a shit about your hobbies unless they also have those exact same hobbies.
I mean sure buddy, but are you gonna open up the bar with "Let me tell you how dependable and good I am at communicating." or are you gonna show her that by telling her about your hobbies and how you stick to them despite hardship. If you can't talk about what you like, how are you gonna talk about the difficult stuff down the line?
I'd say well groomed is more important than "good looking". If you look clean, your clothes are well fitted, hair and nails well trimmed and show some basic hair and skin care you look good regardless of what your face actually looks like.
Thinking that hobbies have no value, that's teenager stuff. So is thinking that what applies to one woman applies to all.
Well groomed.. really wasn't necessary. I just wore a t-shirt and whenever I was interested in someone I would take off that t-shirt.
I was age 21-24 though, so teenager stuff might still have applied.
Met my wife when I was 24, now 6 years together.
So yeah, my experience with women basically is from age 17 to 24. As teenager, it was all about hobbies etc.
Now as a married man.. my wife doesn't give a fuck bout my hobbies, she's pregnant so she wants someone dependable. Long term relationship so we need to be communicative.
Hobbies.. we do things together. Outings, watching series. She suffers through my blabbering bout economic stuff that she really doesn't care about. She watches me workout for the so maniest time.
When you're looking for a relationship, all you need to do is have fun. Be charming. Your hobby can be whatever. They want you, not your hobby, not your grooming. If you're fit and you can make her laugh, that's all you need.
You don't have much experience to be in this conversation. I'm legit happy you clicked with someone at that age, and seem well settled! But that's unusual, and again, that's not much of a resume.
Well... kinda. Not sure why you keep on about grooming not being important. Weird to me. But yes, be fit and make her laugh, good deal! But no, there's a bit more to attraction in most cases. Something here seems a bit shallow.
But hell, look at me and my wife. We're wildly physically attracted to each other. Her smell is like crack to me, and I've done my time with actual crack. We don't have much in common intellectually but we've found some hobbies and interests alike and shared unfamiliar hobbies and interests. In short, we've learned from one another, and that's important to me, and seems to be important to all the women I've been with. They always say I'm "interesting", even if they have, uh, other things to say.
We could probably learn a thing or two talking this out.
I didn't have a job until age 25, so I had all the time in the world to explore and learn.
Unlike my brother. He's 33 now, hasn't had a single relationship that I'm aware of, always busy working. Clearly aiming at a transactional relationship with someone young enough to be fertile by the time he wants to work less.
I wouldn't just go about the amount of time that passed. Between age 17 and 24 I talked to hundreds of people. Settling down doesn't seem unusual to me.
Once again.. fertility.. my wife's pregnant now at age 29, the risk of miscarriage after age 30 becomes quite a lot higher.
I think it's our current society that settles down too late in life. That's why the labour force is shrinking. Too many people on retirement who never had kids. (Belgium)
On a subject like this, for people that are struggling to get a relationship. The only advice I should give is to talk to a lot of people. Don't be a simp (don't act fake), use your intuition. Trial and error. Break hearts, get your heart broken. Find someone that you click with, it feels like biking on asphalt. Not on a rocky road.
The smell thing. That's because you're bonded. Oxytocin probably is the reason for that. Hormones are a hell of a drug.
Yeah, all someone has to do is to be interesting.