What the fuck is “low value men”? No one else can decide your value.
this post was submitted on 21 Mar 2025
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I agree, but there's is also the reallity that if you have no hobbies and no passions other than gooning you're going to come off as pretty uninteresting and boring to most people. Some would call that being low-value
Nah low value isn't about hobbies and stuff. That's teenager stuff.
It's quite easy.. be dependable, be able to communicate, be good looking, charisma, ...
Girls don't give a shit about your hobbies unless they also have those exact same hobbies.
I mean sure buddy, but are you gonna open up the bar with "Let me tell you how dependable and good I am at communicating." or are you gonna show her that by telling her about your hobbies and how you stick to them despite hardship. If you can't talk about what you like, how are you gonna talk about the difficult stuff down the line?
I'd say well groomed is more important than "good looking". If you look clean, your clothes are well fitted, hair and nails well trimmed and show some basic hair and skin care you look good regardless of what your face actually looks like.
Thinking that hobbies have no value, that's teenager stuff. So is thinking that what applies to one woman applies to all.
Well groomed.. really wasn't necessary. I just wore a t-shirt and whenever I was interested in someone I would take off that t-shirt.
I was age 21-24 though, so teenager stuff might still have applied.
Met my wife when I was 24, now 6 years together.
So yeah, my experience with women basically is from age 17 to 24. As teenager, it was all about hobbies etc.
Now as a married man.. my wife doesn't give a fuck bout my hobbies, she's pregnant so she wants someone dependable. Long term relationship so we need to be communicative.
Hobbies.. we do things together. Outings, watching series. She suffers through my blabbering bout economic stuff that she really doesn't care about. She watches me workout for the so maniest time.
When you're looking for a relationship, all you need to do is have fun. Be charming. Your hobby can be whatever. They want you, not your hobby, not your grooming. If you're fit and you can make her laugh, that's all you need.
Incels are low value men...but not for the reason they think
No one else can decide your value.
Others can decide over your value inside their own socials context, which lead to the value-judging person and their peers to act accordingly towards you.
If you apply this value to yourself or reject it and if other contexts and groups adopt the value is an other story.
A "low value man" is a man that tries to decide another ones value.
Imagine the world is a video game. Higher value characters of the race man would have things like a high earning job (a good class), a decent amount of wealth, high physical stats, high charisma. Low value characters would have a terrible class (smelly gamer), stats they believe are skewed towards intelligence, and no money.
If your world view is like this except you also believe there are hidden stats you can't ever change(like looks), and you're in a capitalist nightmarescape where even changing your class and amount of wealth is typically impossible, then you've accidently an entire incel.
Teenager moment
I've legit had this happen to me in high school. I stopped being friends with guys after it became.... "aggressive".
I had this happen to me in my 30’s. (Sorta.)
Polyamory - a woman who hadn’t been taking on new partners started dating me. My other girlfriend’s husband began awkwardly pursuing her with no grace or finesse. It got awkward. An acquaintance learned that I was dating the second woman (who had also only recently gotten back into the scene), and began pursuing her.
It’s like some guys think that because a woman is available to one (well, two or three), she’s available to all. It felt very much like blood in the water to a shark.
God this is stupid even for green text
That’s how you now it’s not fake.
It still could be gay
The friend is just jealous the girl is getting more attention from OP and going full yandere
Not gay enough, shits bad
He and his friend could be sleeping together, but otherwise in an open relationship.
One of them is lower value than the other, it would seem.