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There are so many great reasons to be on Signal. Now including the opportunity for the vice president of the United States of America to randomly add you to a group chat for coordination of sensitive military operations. Don’t sleep on this opportunity…

Editing to add the link to the messages: https://archive.is/2025.03.26-131842/https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Their claim that they dropped sms support because engineering costs causes me to question them.

There are free sms apps. Android handles SMS, an app just reads/writes the SMS database via an API.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I thought they dropped it because sms is fundamentally antithetical to a secure messaging platform and their view was that sms inclusion was causing confidence issues for their users who weren't sure if a message would fall back to an unencrypted sms message.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

They didn't drop them because of money costs, where did you get such a statement?

In any event they didn't really have much of a choice, even if they dropped the ball by not simply resurfacing the old SMS product they did and do have. Having SMS and have people assume it was private because it was on Signal had already caused various issues, of the kind that causes bad mouth-to-mouth for your service. Signal's response, while adequate, was also lazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their claim that they dropped sms support because engineering costs causes me to question them.

There are free sms apps. Android handles SMS, an app just reads/writes the SMS database via an API.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It wasn't about sending SMS, it was about sending SMS securely, and whether this actually provided an improvement offer not offering it anymore. TextSecure came out when mobile data wasn't as prevalent. But times have changed