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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Hasan was paid by ubisoft to play the new Assassin's creed on stream (which he was very clear that it is a paid promotion) grummz got mad and called him a "terrorist supporter" and claimed ubisoft supports terrorism (because Hasan is middle eastern and pro-palestine). Then Elon responded to grummz with this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Hasan openly glazes Hamas and Houthis. He calls them freedom fighters and showing their propaganda videos while he calls them music Videos.

I'm not into hating vallhalla for stupid reasons, but it's a fact to call Hasan a terrorist supporter.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

The founding fathers were terrorists, according to the definition the US government uses. They were fighting an occupying force using violence. We now call them heroes and patriots. It’s a matter of perspective.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Did they kidnap ship workers, woman and children to torture, rape and kill them? Did they parade naked woman through the street? Was their Slogan "death to america"?

If you support that youve sold your soul and got nothing in return.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did they kidnap ship workers

Likely yes

woman and children to torture, rape and kill them

Most of the founding fathers were slave owners so that's a yes to that as well

Did they parade naked woman through the street?

Americans called it a slave auction

Was their Slogan "death to america"?

Of course not. They were America so why would they say "death to us"? It was more like "death to England and the tyrant King George".

Life isn't black and white.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The whole encyclopedia of whataboutism in one comment. Respect

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How is this "whataboutism"? They gave instances for every one of your hypotheticals.

I do think that Hamas and Houthis are generally vile human-beings and that the West should not be cheering for the Shia muslim faction. But it is also true that they represent freedom fighters to some - especially those in Palestine currently being murdered (genocide) so Israel can have more living space

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

You asked, I answered. Simple as.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

That's not how whataboutism works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, that's not what whataboutism is. The person was asked several questions, and they answered them. They even quoted each individual question before answering it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Don't ask the questions if you don't want them answered lmao

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was the slogan of the founding fathers of America "death to america"? Super hard hitting question.

Also there was more than enough rape, murder, and genocide taking place on the part of the American revolutionaries, and it was being actively encouraged by the founding fathers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is like the seventh comment saying "but what about..." that I get.

Is that the bar that makes you defend atrocities against civilians?

You need a deep look into your self mate

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Are we talking about the Palestinian civilians or the Israelis specifically?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

I'm sorry but if you can't even remotely see from where Hasan (or the other commenter) is coming from then you're literally no better than what you blame him to be. Israel has been terrorizing Palestinians probably longer than you've been alive and America has been supporting Israel since the beginning. Are you really surprised when the Palestinians, who have been terrorized their entire life, radicalize into Hamas and start shouting "death to America"?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

did you learn anything about early america? they absolutely did all that except the "death to america" part was really "death to britons".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That torture, rape, and murder stuff sounds nearly as bad as what Americans and Israelis do daily.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you support the us military or the idf you are a terrorist supporter too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Some more of that whataboutism please. Pretty low strategy to defend terrorist, rapists and murderers.

You always stoop that low to defend evil?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Pointing out common hypocrisy relevant to a topic isn't a whattaboutism, and claiming it is is a pretty transparent attempt to dismiss valid criticism you clearly lack a rebuttal to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Chances are they heard someone else use the term "whataboutism" and are just mindlessly parroting it without understanding what it actually is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I havent been a hypocrite, have I? Your defense of terrorists is by your definition though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I wasn't calling you a hypocrite, they were, I am not them, we are not the same person. I was just pointing out that 'whattaboutism' isn't a harry-potter-esque spell that when shouted properly makes valid criticism disappear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Both sides of the conflict are terrorists, between IDF and hamas, hamas are the lesser evil

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

go back to dgg or h3 whichever hole you came out of

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not my cup of tea. Ive been following Hasan for a long time until it became too obvious he just wants to groom the viewers to terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I don't watch Hasan streams or anything, just sometimes catch the clips on yt afterwards, but I don't think I've ever seen him "glaze" Hamas.

Unless you're saying that Palestinian = Hamas. Is that what you are saying?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

(because Hasan is middle eastern and pro-palestine)

Must be his pro-Houthi stances. That also covers 'called him a “terrorist supporter”', since plenty of people see the Houthi as terrorists, with them overthrowing the government, even though they do claim to want a democracy (just not one governed by a corrupt president).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

There's also the little bit about them wanting to bring slavery back

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dont forget Grimes called Hasan hot. Musk be jellouse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently people started posting grimes on Hasan stream under elons tweets. I hope this pushes him to finally put all of us out of misery

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Every further post raises the chance of ketamin overdose!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hasan is Turkish, not Middle Eastern.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am not about to start a geopolitical debate about where the middle east ends on a cirlcejerk community

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I didn't think it was a controversial take... In fact, I wasn't aware that it was a take at all.