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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess we'll just pretend the Vatican doesn't exist

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Vatican isn’t a mega church. Almost no one in Roman Catholicism is using a private jet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t know why you would think tha assessment has any credibility. You aren’t going to know what they have and frankly that isn’t relevant to taxation as we don’t tax wealth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would be nice if we had some kind of visibility into that, huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why? We don’t assess anyone’s wealth because that’s insanely hard to do and is why every wealth tax that gets adopted eventually gets dropped.

What right do we have to know what a foreign nation, which the Vatican is, has?

Why would you want government workers to decide what is and is not acceptable for a Church? This is literally why the Congregationalists moved to Plymouth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My point is that, in the US, other organizations that accept charity have to produce documentation detailing their spending. Religious organizations should be held to the same standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Their spending not their wealth yet you brought up wealth not spending.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because those things are related. If you don't spend all your revenue, you end up accumulating wealth - that's profit. Which is directly in contradiction of being a nonprofit entity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Profit is the revenue you have left after your expenses. Profits can become wealth but wealth is not profits.

If you can’t understand the above you should be asking questions more than making definitive statements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that you think this contradicts what I said really speaks to your reading ability.

Profits can become wealth

Is the same as what I said

you end up accumulating wealth

Now go be incorrectly pedantic somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The wealth a church has can be derived from gifts which aren’t revenue and aren’t profits. For example when my local bishop died he gave the diocese his collection of first edition theological texts. Those books have value and this are wealth but zero profit is gained by having them because they aren’t being sold.

At no point was I “incorrectly pedantic” you seem to just not know the difference between wealth and profits which is odd considering the claims you have made about your academic background.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're reading way too much into the order I phrased something in, all in an attempt to distract from you being wrong. You keep going further and further off track to distract people. It's not working. Stop it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I would argue the same to you so perhaps we should stop here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is literally why the Congregationalists moved to Plymouth.

A bit disingenuous. They also didn't want to be persecuted while having batshit insane ideas and did horrible persecution, even unto death and torture of others, unless I'm misremembering. Churches should not be allowed to persecute nor encourage persecution of others. It would be nice if they actually taught the whole Bible in a sane and honest way and let God do the judging.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

we don’t tax wealth.

We don't, but civilized countries do.