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France’s far-right leader Le Pen guilty of embezzlement in ruling that could end her career
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“sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants and disabled people.
But yes, the french system is more successful at holding politicians accountable than the US.
You’re moving goal posts. Context is politician as per the top comment.
That's not moving goalposts. Your original comment was stating the system was sound because the politician was convicted. The person you are replying to was refuting that based on other failures of the french court system.
If you had instead posited "the french justice system is sound in this regard" referencing political conviction solely, then you might have ground for them ignoring the argument.
Good point. Original Commenter (OC) is claiming a specificity after the fact when initially they were claiming a generality.
As a reader though, OC's meaning came across in my first reading. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The justice system doesn't, the police does
I kinda disagree here. Ofc the police is on the front line, but the judges protect policemen and policewomen from being convicted or too harshly punished.
More generally, it is judges who decide to send people to prison, to inflict economic and social punishments on people deviating from the state, to send refugees back to suffering or death they tried to escape from. I saw trials in France where the judges considered the fact that a militant had anarchist books in his library as aggravating circumstance. I studied law for 3 years and made internship in tribunals, and it is not a misconception to say that the judiciary system is protecting and perpetrating state violence, though it's less bloody than what the cops can do.