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looks like German libs are doing the Kamala speedrun.
it's not a coincidence they went after trans immigrants first, they know it's easy to use us as guinea pigs for setting legal precedent.
The propaganda is getting lazy, this doesn’t even make sense.
Idk, maybe it is just feels-based. If we keep repeating over and over in various ways how bad and anti-Palestinian Kamala Harris was while she was in charge of the country and setting our Gaza policy, people will absorb it by pure groupthink, and won’t notice that the number of people deported or disappeared for being Gaza protestors has gone up infinity percent since the other person won the election and in fact this exact type of issue was a big part of why it was super important for him not to win.
Their argument is liberals capitulating to the right in order to "win over voters" which will never vote for them. Not an exact 1 to 1 comparison.
Kamala did support the brutal crackdown on student protesters. But, she did indeed not deport them. That said, ICE under Biden and Kamala was already heavily in violation of human rights and continuing the Trump 2016 agenda. Deportation of wrongthink is but the next logical step of the ratchet effect.
Ah yes, those are some perfectly standard talking points.
I think I will do up a FAQ for the disinformation community or something, it is getting tiring repeatedly typing the same responses. But I do appreciate the extra effort to at least put together something which has some semblance of plausibility instead of just seeing “Gaza” and reaching for the “Kamala Harris” button without bothering to make it make sense or relate in literally any way at all. Big improvement. Good stuff.
Their comparison is to Liberals because "Liberals" are currently running Germany instead of the "far right". Whatever these terms even mean anymore, seeing they both love Fascism.
If the AfD was in charge the comparison would have been to Trump.
German Liberals also appear to also do their very best to hand an easy win to the far right next election by blaming immigrants and protesters for everything instead of addressing any economic issues. Thus making the entire populace vote more right similar to how Liz Kamaley handed the win to Trump.
Berlin is run by right-wing conservatives, not liberals. The federal government lacks authority for states deciding whom to deport.
The map said Berlin was "left" in the last German elections. Is this not representative?
Berlin currently has a black-red government. I have no idea what your map there is showing. State elections wouldn't show a federal map and the last federal elections don't match, compare e.g. SH's districts (northernmost state).
Berlin is kinda notorious for being a police state, and of the "IDGAF" nature, not "stickler for law" one.
Those are the results from the 2024 European Parliament Election.
Here are the results of the more relevant 2023 State Parliament Election:
The state government is right-wing conservatives with centrist-at-best "social" democrats. Both are very supportive of police cracking down on people who wouldn't have voted for them anyways.
I appreciate it as well. I don’t like people dismissing the wrong Biden and Kamala have done. However, the people constantly saying it doesn’t matter if you vote for Kamala or Trump because they’re both fascist is wrong and annoying.
IndustryStandard literally didn't say that.
IndustryStandard criticizing Kamala but mentioning Kamala wouldn’t do all the same things as Trump. I like how they mentioned it was the a stepping stone for Trump’s deportations but I was not referring to that specifically.
PhilipTheBucket liking that that IndustryStandard’s post was nuanced and not as simple as “Kamala bad”.
I was trying to say I liked the nuanced discussion, and was expanding on it with my own experiences.
Uh... I'm pretty sure you misunderstood that. PhilipTheBucket was speaking ironically; they were saying that IndustryStandard's response is still disinformation, just higher quality disinformation that's meant to look vaguely plausible. This is not a nuanced discussion; it's PhilipTheBucket dismissing IndustryStandard's response as disinformation and propaganda meant to make America's Great Saviors look bad.
They forgot the “/s” then. I couldn’t pick up on that.
Also, what is “America’s Great Saviors?”
The Democratic Party. That part is ironic use by me.
Yeah it's "weird" how up in arms liberals were when Trump opened the concentration camps but how quiet they were when Biden neglected to close them so he could use them even more than Trump did
I'm pretty sure Kamala, being a private citizen and not the president, has nothing to do with the deportations taking place in America right now.
I'd check who the current president is and assign blame to him.
sure, if you wanna do a dog-shit ahistorical analysis of what lead to this, you could place the blame entirely on Trump.
do you seriously expect us to ignore the direct parallel between the Democrats adopting fascist rhetoric and deportations and the social Democrats in Germany adopting AfD propaganda in their program?
you either didn't pay attention when she threw us under the bus to win the fascist electorate or You actively cheered her on as she was doing it. same for her being a rabid Zionist.
Agreed. The Democrats started this Mcarthyist witchhunt about Hamas supporting students and anti Zionism is anti semitism baloney. Thanks to them the Republicans were gifted with a ready made clampdown on civil rights.
Also, seems like you haven't heard of Rufo and similar Republican propagandists
Pretty sure most of those university board members are conservative
nah you right
Are you okay?
As a trans person in this timeline obviously they’re not okay, are you doing anything to make the situation better for them in any possible way? If not better lose the snarkiness
Ah sorry, I didn’t realize being trans gives you a free pass for spreading political propaganda but I know better now.
Actually I think it’s kind of patronizing to say that trans people just can’t help themselves from posting shit like that because of their circumstances.
Trans people probably can't help themselves from responding to Democrat apologia when most of the things Trump is doing were first legitimized by Democrats either in speech or action.
Okay buddy, American far left accelerationists working hand in hand with the alt right to dismantle democracy will never not be funny from an outside perspective.
You’re beginning to see the regime you brought on but instead of owning up to it, you blame it on milquetoast technocrats like Kamala Harris lmao.
Ahhh yes it's the far left that's working hand in hand with the fascists not the Democrats who are currently rubber stamping things like Trump's cabinet picks, the Laken Riley act, and even the recent spending bill that just barley managed to limp over the edge thanks to, you guessed, the Democrats!
You're actually just blue MAGA, you somehow make fun of Red Hats for still blaming Biden for everything while blaming the boogyman leftist for your parties failures.
It'd be hilarious how you people think you're so different from Republicans if I didn't have to deal with the reality of your representatives working with fascists to dismantle OUR rights.
Lmao, you were presented with a classic trolley problem and you failed it. Now it’s everyone’s fault but yours. Good luck in the impending fascist regime, I’m sure boycotting Kamala was worth it!
I appreciate that you're unable to refute any of what I said, doubled down on blaming others, and assumed my vote all in one message. Even more on brand of you doing all that with a condescending tone.
You do nothing productive other then vote for your team, point fingers at everyone when you fail, and are unwilling, or more likely unable, to engage with anything that doesn't fit your world view or threatens to scrutinize it.
You truly are a Republican with a blue badge, bravo.
Edit: they continue to prove every point I make lol
Enjoy fascism! 🫶
So unable to. Thanks for verifying.
Edit: still unable
Aha so you're German! Think of the US Democrats as the social Democrats who signed off on the enabling act in your home country. Hopefully you're not too retarded for that comparison.
Also the irony of saying enjoy fascism as your country deports legal citizens for protesting Israel lol
Except that they’re making perfect sense and you’re simply calling it political propaganda because it doesn’t fit into your world view. There’s nothing to patronize because it’s a perfectly sane take, you’re the one trying to gaslight us here.
Alright buddy, good luck in life!
checks who the current president is
How could the democrats let this happen?!?
Who helped the recent spending bill pass again?
Are deportations part of the spending bill or are you moving the goal post?
Fine you want deportation specific? Democrats rubber stamped the Laken Riley act, fuck you.
My point was Democrats are literally working lockstep with Republicans and you're too much a blue MAGAt to care.
I love your passion, but I'm just a dude thousands of miles away, eating popcorn and laughing in your general direction.
The Kamala speedrun? Did she deport thousands of people to El Salvador?
she's adopted a violent transphobic, anti-Palestinian campaign to win over MAGA voters. that's what the SPD is doing to Arabs, Muslims and immigrants by courting the AfD.