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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

it means it's a job that almost anyone can do

Not exactly. Unskilled labor simply refers to jobs that do not require a formal certification. There are many economically unskilled jobs that require a high amount of expertise. One such example is often a chef (specifically, the ones which don't have formal culinary education).

Chefs need to have a deep understanding of food preparation techniques, flavor profiles, food safety, menu planning, and the ability to work quickly and efficiently in a high-pressure environment. It is a demanding job that few people can do. Yet, according to economics, these people would be unskilled.


Personally, part of me believes that people shouldn't nitpick the percieved inaccuracy of jargon based upon the usage of words in common parlance.

The other part of me wishes that the experts would have chosen a less polarizing term with more neutral connotations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

There's nothing special required to open a restaurant in Sweden, which I think most would agree is a developed country. You need a business license and a food license (unsure how to translate), neither of which requires an education or training, and you need a proper location for preparing and serving food. Employees can be literally anyone off the street. You have to pass health inspections, but the inspectors don't care much about details if nothing dangerous is going on.

I personally appreciate your example of chef and had to delete the rest of what I had to say because it got way too emotional. It's a frustrating situation when you're making people happy by providing a service and still not being rewarded because capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A chef is a skilled job. Because you need skill.

Flipping frozen burger patties is an unskilled job. Because you don't need any skill.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are a number of skills that go into working fast food, and your dismissal of them is part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, there's a number of skills that go into putting your clothes in the morning as well. But any able-bodied human can do the job with a day of training.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This isn’t true. Watch some POV videos of people working fast food jobs. No one is saying that McDonald’s and vascular surgery require the same amount of skill and training, but that’s not the point. We need to recognize that what’s considered menial is quite complex. Look at how long it’s taking to replace people doing basic jobs with machines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's a junk ending. You try to replace anything with a machine. It's nontrivial. But then, to come full circle, it's a skilled labor job ;).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, in a company of a million employees some are extra fast and make a show if it to get Youtube views. Watch people at McDonald's WITHOUT YouTube (scary, I know) and you'll see that it's just some dudes flipping burgers. Like anyone does on a weekend.

Yes, a monkey couldn't do it, but that's not the definition of skilled vs unskilled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A chef is not skilled according to economics. However, "skill" as used in common literature and speech, still applies to these uncertified chefs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

By this uncommon and misinterpreted definition a master sword maker would also be unskilled. Which is not how common literature, speech, nor economics applies it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would not consider chef as "unskilled labor"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's not. Not even "economically".