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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I appreciate the reply. I really didn't mean that you can't design away ALL stupidity, as there are clearly infrastructure and road designs all over the world that force motorists to drive in a way that causes less harm.

But my thoughts are that if you have to design infrastructure to "be safe", rather than have drivers drive safely, then we really should re-evaluate whether these vehicles should be allowed at all. I've seen multiple cases of motorists driving over concrete barriers designed to keep cyclists safe. It's nice that they didn't kill anyone, but the fact that it even happened is highly worrisome!

Same with speed. Yes, you can design all sorts of things to physically slow drivers down. But the fact that someone would choose to drive 2 or 3x the speed limit is the real problem, not that the roads physically allow them to.

We, as a society, have to change a driver's behaviour and attitudes.