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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    here should be a platform that enables designers to relatively easily contribute to open source projects without learning git or whatever the fuck.

    Make it then.

    Do you know how difficult it is to make software that runs, let alone runs well? Do you know how difficult it is to stay on top of the constant messages, issues, PRs, and just churn that comes alone when that particular software gets popular? And on top of that devs are supposed to be design gods too?

    If you think you have the solution: build it. Be a part of the solution. The developers of GIMP can't do everything.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    genius reply. i love that in the same comment where you say devs can't be design gods you say designers should make an entire software platform.

    and no, they're not supposed to be design gods, which is why I said there should be a platform that enables designers to contribute, which would take the burden off the devs. words must be hard.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I know very little about GIMP or other OS design software, but does this software have a plugin system that designers could use to extend the software so they can use it how they want?
    That would be another thing to look into

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    So, benefit of the doubt time.

    That's some mental gymnastics in there but let's see if we can get it.

    So the reply isn't actually suggesting you create the platform for designers, they are pointing out that there is a lot more to competent platform/software design than it seems, so try it yourself and find out.

    If it turns out you do in fact have the answers, great, we now have the platform you described.

    Chances are you'll find out just how difficult it is to do what you are suggesting and realise that implying someone could "just" create a platform for designers isn't particularly realistic.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    so the comment is about how I might not realize that creating such a platform is hard when my comment says I don't even understand how git works. weird. nowhere in the history of language has "there should be such a thing" meant or even implied "making such a thing is easy", if anything it implies the opposite.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

    nowhere in the history of language has “there should be such a thing” meant or even implied “making such a thing is easy”

    I know its hyperbole but you can't possible back that statement up.

    if anything it implies the opposite.

    It doesn't, but i agree it didn't really imply the difficulty was high either.

    I wasn't saying the reply was correct, i was stating the intended meaning (at least as i see it).


    To answer to your original post, design platforms with version control exist.

    Some use git under the hood, some don't, most don't require you to understand git to use them.

    Hopefully that saves you some time as now you don't have to build the platform from scratch.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Alright making this really simple.

    These are the interpretations of you and your words:

    • you are a dev
    • you think GIMP's design is shit
    • you think GIMP devs should be better at design and are worth shitting on
    • you purport to have a solution

    My words:

    • stop shitting on devs for design
    • build the solution you purport to have

    Nowhere do I say "designers should write code".

    Are we on the same page now?

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    that's a bad interpretation.

    • no I'm a designer, which is why I'm talking about design
    • yes it is
    • no, devs are devs and designers are designers. I think it would be nice for designers to have more opportunity to contribute to open source projects
    • having a solution is a bit generous. I just said having an easy to use platform for designers would make open source projects more approachable.

    and to your words:

    • I'm shitting on the design, not the devs. stop personalizing criticism it's a terrible way to live and work.
    • if I could I would

    Nowhere do I say "designers should write code".

    except for literally the very previous sentence. of course you don't realize that because you somehow assumed I'm a dev despite my comments being entirely about design and even implying that I don't even know how the fuck git works

    Are we on the same page now?

    clearly not

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    dude it's not my fault you're on an entirely different book, let alone the same page

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    They'd didn't say they were a dev so your whole analysis is off.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    that's not what they were saying.

    They were saying there wish there was a way for designers to contribute. Git is a pain in the ass. lets be real. Important, but a pain. Its a bad UI.

    Design isn't the same as code, so the same process and repos aren't necessarily going to help. that's all they didn't say anything insulting. Only that they wish there was a away for designers to contribute. Why is that hurting peoples feelings?

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    If we can't criticize because we can't make it, might as well shut up for life.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    There's constructive criticism and then there's just yapping.

    "Ermagerd GIMP devs are so shit at design" = yapping

    "Just build a platform for designers" = supposed solution + it's so easy, people are stupid for not having built this yet = yapping

    Had it been, something like

    I'm not a fan of GIMP's design. It would be cool if had a way to help them. Maybe a platform to connect devs and designers? It could work like ....

    That would've been a completely different discussion.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    I feel like they gave good reasons as to what the problem is and why it exists, and potentially how to solve it (making git easier to use, which I’m all for, or use something else)

    You’re the only one insulting the project/devs. They were really respectful in their comment. You’re just misquoting them and making them say something they didn’t.

    You’re just too entitled. Some opinions can be direct and harsh, and still be valid and constructive criticism. Grow some thick skin and get over it.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    "Just build a platform for designers"

    did it feel weird when you emphasized a word that I specifically didn't say in your quote? there's strawman, and there's straight up lying. and your suggestion for how I should have worded it is pretty much what I said. it's so funny, is the issue that I didn't use enough uwus and 👉👈 emojis? lol.