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Sure, the country might be in the midst of multiple crises, but at least the "Obama-Biden war on water pressure" has come to an end.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Droughts and water utilities' excessive use fees.

You should really be complaining about things like water heavy crops not having more limitations. 80% of controlled water used in CA is agriculture. Of that, 20% alone is used to grow tree nuts, like almonds, and 2/3 of those nuts are exported internationally. So just nuts are using almost as much water as all non-agricultural use in the State, and shipped overseas. Almonds alone use more than 14% of all agricultural water in the State. Maybe the State needs to start actually look at limiting crops like that, since that would be much more effective than shifting the burden to individuals.

But it's more profitable to convince the masses that they need to do something personally, and buy new "efficient" or "environmentally-friendly" products to do so, rather than dealing with the actual problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

The meat and dairy industry use vastly more water and also contribute to climate change through greenhouse gas emissions, while almond trees help to reduce CO2. Maybe focus on that instead of buying into the animal ag propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I never discounted the meat and dairy industries. They're an issue as well. However...

Fucking almonds use 14% of the water in the State and 2/3 of that is exported. That's a ridiculous use of water for a single shitty crop no matter how you cut it.

Almonds could be removed from most people's diets entirely with very little change on their part, hell most probably wouldn't even notice, and recovering nearly 10% of CA's water usage alone would do more than swapping showerheads. People would definitely notice the result of beef and milk availability dropping by a similar amount. You need to start with the things people won't have to make active changes for.

Dairy is a big issue, like you mentioned... And milk alternatives are much better than dairy when it comes to water usage. But even then, out of those alternatives, nut based options like almond milk use a lot more water in the process than something like oat milk or soy milk. If people are already reducing their dairy usage with alternatives, there should be a larger focus on the ones with larger impact.

Also, everyone always talks trees and CO2, they're a fraction of the global cycle, algae converts 40x as much CO2 as trees do. And it does so much faster, with a higher growth rate. But everyone is always so focused on the trees they ignore easily available alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, I didn’t wake up this morning thinking I’d be recruited onto team “Fuck Almonds,” but here we are.

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