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Why do people insist on staying in the US when they are so miserable there?
You have a US passport. If you're healthy and have useful skills, you can immigrated to like 100+ countries. How many people are able to move but afraid? For them, their misery is a choice (or a hobby)
You know most countries have laws that prevent people from just moving and working there? And they prioritize people with certain skills, sometimes require you to have a certain amount of money in the bank.
lol βjust fly somewhere else until you get deported back to the us bro what are you doingβ
Literally skill issue
I know you're in denial, but the comment literally specified "100+" and "useful skills" implying you're, you know, getting a visa. Most countries aren't like the US where the populace will protect illegal immigrants
Have you looked into this? Please share one country that you'd suggest Americans move to and which would allow it.
I've immigrated twice. South Korea was particularly pleasant and they have a need for senior engineers
Guess I'm a moron for thinking 11 months of waiting is worth a lifetime of better quality? Lol
This is what I mean by people are living in misery as a choice
For the second time now, I invite you to reread the part where I said people with "useful skills": https://lemmy.ml/comment/18010515
I'm not denying that people dealt a bad hand can't easily immigrate.. But I am saying people who can immigrate seem not to. Which makes me believe their misery is their choice
You won't convince people with a victim mentality. I have migrated twice in my life as well. It's not easy but for many people if they can't install it as an app on their phone they won't do it. If a farmer from tunesia or a cleaning lady from India can emigrate, anyone sufficiently motivated can.
For many people "have useful skills" doesn't imply "is a senior engineer." I'm a white collar worker in a relatively senior position and make a fairly comfortable living. I looked into Canada and Europe and my skills, useful as they may be to me and my employers, don't give me any advantage in immigrating.
Could I do it? Sure, but it would be a step back in quality of life for a number of years, for some period I might be separated from my partner, and after the move I'd be separated from all my friends, family and professional network, with no guarantee I'd get back to my current earning level.
Unlike many people my standard of living isn't so bad here. I also have some sense of responsibility to try to contribute and make things better where I can. But things are certainly looking dicey.
Why the fuck do you want sane people fleeing the US? Although things seem dire, we are still hoping to claw power away from fascists. If we can flip the legislature away from Republican control in 2 years, we at least get enough power to stop most of the bullshit from happening.
For me, it's family. Even within the US I know there are a lot of better places to live with more to do, more walkable neighborhoods, etc. But my wife and I both have our parents here, and we both have 2 siblings and there are 9 cousins (our generation's kids) and I love watching them grow up together. As much as I disagree with the politics locally and Nationally, I also love that I don't have to raise my kids on an island. So it's either stay here, or join a cult somewhere.
This is our home.
Have you immigrated? Were you the first of your family to do so?
Yes I've immigrated twice, that's why I'm speaking from experience. No I wasn't first in my family (my mum immigrated when she was 16 and told me what to expect)