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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Hopefully when Harris wins the primary Ocasio-Cortez’s fans don’t have a nine year temper tantrum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s fine to complain, though. We are not a cult. If the establishment candidate wins the primary, we’ll dutifully vote for that candidate in the general, and then complain about that president-elect for the next four-to-eight years, and try to pressure them on the issues that matter to us. And that’s a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you kidding? The only chance Harris has to win the primary is if the party pulls another Debbie Wasserman Schultz and destroys their chances in the general again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

So her chances are high, then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The establishment candidate might not be Harris next time. My point still stands, whoever it turns out to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That's a valid point, but I wouldn't put money on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

"vote blue no matter who" and the dems pivoting from issue driven campaigns to personality driven ones so they can take donations from bad actors is what got the party into the mess its in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Complaining is fine and encouraged.

It’s the Bernie-or-bust mindset or the whole voting third party instead of Harris campaigns that I take issue with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We wouldn't have to be this way if the Democrats hadn't shown their whole ass to put us here:

https://people.com/celebrity/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resigns-following-bernie-sanders-comments/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what I’m talking about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Right?

You'd think the party would have learned its lesson after the disaster in 2016 but then 2024 comes around and they do it again, appealing to "centrists" like the mythical moderate Republican and pushing their own voters out of the conversation so they could keep the AIPAC cash flowing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn’t going against Israel political suicide whether you like them or not?

There’s a reason every president has been pro-Israel since it was created.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Seems to me that their being pro-genocide hurt them more than it helped.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Isn’t going against Israel political suicide whether you like them or not?

It's political suicide according to people who love everything they do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Ask Ilhan Omar. She's just a little representative and they wanted her gone. AIPAC can be a big fish in a small pond against a small number of targeted representatives who are already on shaky ground. They don't mean shit at the presidential level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the establishment candidate wins the primary, we’ll dutifully vote for that candidate in the general

The core reason for the loss in 2024 still exists, and polls show that patience for DNC shenanigans has run out amongst voters.

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