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[–] [email protected] 382 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn't.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I mean, if I were her I’d feel drained and devastated. Everything that happened during the election and people still picked Trump over her…

[–] [email protected] 199 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I have a hard time feeling sorry for her after leaving the left hanging and going after conservative votes. She made an incredibly poor strategic choice and it cost all of us.

Obviously she's not the only one to blame here, conservatives deserving the majority of blame followed by people that stayed home, but she doesn't deserve pity.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

… not to mention she didn’t ask for a recount. That one was a red flag for me.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A recount requires a vote to be close, it wasn’t. Trump won every swing state. And with the margins he won by, every recount in the world would not overcome the 86 EVs she trailed by.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. I have a lot of problems with Kamala The Cop. But she lost what might be the final election in American History. That takes a lot out of you

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[–] al_Kaholic 34 points 3 weeks ago

Drained and devastated but willing to lose again? Spray this turd down the drain of your empathy and out of a leadership roll.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

If I were her, I would have had a plan B knowing what the right wingers were up to, and it should have looked a lot like what Bernie and AOC are doing. Instead she showed up then fucked off to somewhere else after hanging out with Dick Cheney for a few months.

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[–] [email protected] 220 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (21 children)

Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what's gonna win the votes

[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!"

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I'm shocked that Harris is in first place...

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I used to be shocked Biden was #1 in 2019. Turns out, name recognition matters more than anything else, and Harris had a historic campaign budget. (Not that it was used well, but AOC has never had that level of PR)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

Not so sure about that, I knew who Cortez was years before I recognized Harris and I'm not in either of their districts.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not,

I'm genuinely skeptical that most polls are an accurate sampling of the population. Most people I know would never sit through a phone poll. Most polls reek of phishing. One of the very first phone polls said that Dewy would beat Truman in a landslide. It was completely wrong because it was predominantly rich people who had the phones to even answer the polls.

Who has the time for polls? Who drops by the candidate booths at the state fair? It's a type for sure.

The only poll I have been a part of all last year was a phone poll entirely about optometrists and eye appointments and how they should be handled in the healthcare system. I couldn't even finish it because the entire things was just... painful to go through.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 3 weeks ago (30 children)

Why is Harris even mentioned? She should disappear like Hillary.

Nobody wants this person to run again.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anyone doing a poll would be negligent not to include the previous nominee and former vice president. That's not to imply she's a good choice, only that she's an obvious choice.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

The democratic party is cooked if it runs Kamala again. There is no way Kamala is running this high in the polls.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Why on earth would you run kamala again? The democrats can't afford to learn anymore lessons. School is out. Time to start producing.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fucking morons never learn.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Running Harris was a mistake in 2024 and it would be a mistake if it happens in 2028

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)
  1. Stop with this shit. It's 2025. This is stupid.

  2. Women can't be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That's a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that's reality.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (54 children)

yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala "keep arming isreal" fucking harris again.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

so people think that AOC or Harris is going to win in this very racist/sexist country we are in? Guess it will be Trump again.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn't excited about it.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is thinking about 2028?!? I'm just trying to get out of 2024 alive.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

No deets on methodology. “Of Democrats”. How many? Where? Registered Dems? Likely voters? 2024 voters?

It matters greatly. In the primaries, Obama was invisible to pollsters that were only looking at prior Dem voters. His support came mostly from first-timers and independents.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope we actually get a 2028 election

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You guys still think there will be free elections in 2028?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What shock? AOC is the only one in that party with clear positioning

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck Harris, we have no more time for right wing "liberals." She needs to get the fuck out of the way and progressives need to take charge

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm GLAD that Democrats LEARNED from their Past Elections and are running a KNOWN LOSER WHO COULDNT BEAT A LITERAL FASCIST who Ran on the Platform of Ruining Our Lives! It pairs VERY WELL with Chuck Schumer's Policy of doing NOTHING while American Citizens are Deported to El Salvadorian DEATH CAMPS!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You probably need to take a break from the internet, for your own health and safety.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago

If only your drmocrat handlers let you vote for who you want and not for who they choose.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I will be shocked if the Dem establishment doesn't run Newsom and do their damndest to ratfuck AOC like they did with Bernie.

Sure, there's a lot of time between now and a theoretical 2028 presidential cycle...

But I have learned to set expectations pessimistically and be surprised in the optimism direction, not the other way around.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah okay pack it in boys, we're screwed lol.

Why even bother to run a primary at this point? Just let the DNC select their candidate so we can skip out on the 6 months of sham and shilling.

spoilerAlso told all yall we need progressives to split from DNC and form a fresh 3rd party bruh.

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[–] Spazz 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Cory Booker talked all that time for nothing

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ll take it over the other folks on Capitol Hill that are doing absolutely nothing. People need to make noise.

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