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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

This article appeared in my feed just above another article about how China has the world's first operational thorium reactor. Meanwhile, the US is about to fight a civil war over whether vaccination causes measles and stripping away the last of our social programs in order to get our wealthiest people another 2% subsidy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (11 children)

China and Russia worked very hard to get these rich stupid people in power.

It really started in 2016 when US security agencies released a joint report showing Russia was spreading misinformation to help Trump win the election.

Surprisingly, the "liberal tears compilations" and "something about an email server people didn't understand wasn't actually illegal" actually worked and drowned out the warnings from our security agencies.

I don't think China will be any better of a world leader tbh.

I see humanity's future as a boot stepping on a human face forever, unless humanity globally rejects kings, oligarchs, and dictators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It really started in 2016 when US security agencies released a joint report showing Russia was spreading misinformation to help Trump win the election.

Compare russia to the British and consider who is the bigger villain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can we not bother deciding who was the biggest nightmare, and instead focus on finding models for the best countries.

I am so sick of the "at least the USSR had..." or "at least China does..." conversation. Can't we have a "Finland has high happiness, broad socialist protections, and a fast moving economy" kind of conversations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point is that foreigners influence elections all the time, all over the world.

Americans meddle all the time, but are the only one that start crying when it's done to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Americans have a history of the most insidious manipulations in the politics of other nations - did you see their Sec. of state try commemorate the CIA backed coup of Cuba.

About "crying" over foreign interference, you are wrong. In the last 4 years France, Canada, Germany, Romania, Sri-Lanka, Australia, all of the Baltic nations andore have a had credible complaints of attempts from foreign nations trying to use propaganda and more to influence elections.

Let's not try to convince ourselves than only the Americans are misbehaving.

[–] AufusagandR 1 points 1 week ago

But that would be productive and worthwhile, to talk about actual policy or PISA findings or how to move forward to make the world a better place! Wouldn't you rather bicker about old enmities in the context of nationalism?

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