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“In four years Mike van Erp has filmed 1,400 drivers using their phones, leading to 1,800 penalty points, £110,000 of fines — and him being assaulted by disgruntled motorists. Is he a road safety hero or just a darned nuisance? Nick Rufford joins him on patrol”

I’ve watched a few of his videos. I should be surprised that he catches so many drivers in their phones, but in and around London? Not surprised at all.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A helmet doesn't really protect you if you get run over by a car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are situations where it turns out to have been detrimental to have been wearing a seatbelt in a car too. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea in general.

A helmet might not help much if he goes under the wheels of anything that can be measured in tonnes, but it'll help if he gets nudged (or slips) and tries an unexpected game of tarmac headbutt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Agreed. My wife came off her bike while we were riding together and if she hadn't been wearing a helmet I don't even want to think about the outcome. As it was she was knocked out cold, and lost her memory for several hours. There was a huge dent in her cycle helmet that would have been in her head instead if she hadn't been wearing it. Will always wear a helmet when cycling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes; circumstances matter. The Highway Code gets around all of this by stating (note it’s a should not a must):

“You should wear a cycle helmet that conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened. Evidence suggests that a correctly fitted helmet will reduce your risk of sustaining a head injury in certain circumstances.”

That’s from Rule 59; link here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It protects your head though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wearing a helmet might also might make some drivers drive closer to you and with less care. So it might help make some accidents less severe, but it also might make the chance of a serious accident more likely. It's not as straightforward as many seem to think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

lol what? Oh look he wears an helmet let me run over him; he'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've heard lack of helmet makes car drivers give more space as they're more aware of how squishy the rider is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30472528/

"This analysis confirms that drivers did, overall, get closer when the rider wore a helmet."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No it's more like, they look vulnerable as they aren't wearing a helmet I'll give them some extra room. I was amazed by the extra space I got when cycling with a child seat on the back of my bike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I disagree, it improves your odds for surviving significantly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ooh, this is a classic internet flame war, I haven’t seen this one in awhile. I’m basically obligated by internet history to ask you for proof that it improves your odds of surviving, but instead I’m going to ask you how much RAM Emacs uses on your machine. That should help resolve this argument!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I have no idea if Emacs is even installed because I use vi. Which is correct.