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The Internet Archive needs your help, seriously (blog.archive.org)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Yet again the Internet Archiving is suffering big this time, a coalition of major record labels filed a lawsuit against the Internet Archive demanding $700 million for the extensive catalog of 78 rpm records. 78s are sometimes more than a century old at this point and i bet a lot of them are out of copyright, but i suppose for the few that still are majors are hitting it big towards the IA

This lawsuit is pretty much another existential threat to the Internet Archive and everything it preserves, including the Wayback Machine, and we're fucked if we ever lose access to the Wayback Machine.

the original article asked to sign a petition, but i think a more logical way to support is to donate them directly so that they have more money to better defend themselves in court in this and other cases they'll undoubtedly face in the future

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (20 children)

The law is a law. Their aims do not override it. They are getting what any sane person would expect. Nothing prevented them from separating their legal and shady operations to separate entities. That, at least, would prevent compromising the whole operation. If someone puts his head in a lion mouth, it is still his fault, at least partially, that lion kills him.

It's not like they're distributing the latest Marvel slop.

I doubt this argument will hold in court.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (14 children)

You claimed it was piracy. Piracy is not when you go to a library and listen to something the label doesn't sell anymore. Piracy is downloading the latest Imagine Dragons slop without paying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (13 children)

If the library does not have the license or a right, guaranteed by law, to do that, then it is piracy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

Which law? in which place? at what time ?

Where it's hosted? where it's being accessed? the intermediate locations ?

Which license, is the license enforceable in this context? who decides if it is? what if there are conflicting decisions from different applications of law, who arbitrates?

Do you mean piracy in the maritime sense? or do you mean copyright infringement? perhaps trademark infringement? or intellectual property theft? based on which law in which geographic region ?

This isn't even hyperbole, the things you are talking about have nuance and context, pretending they don't is a failure of imagination or intentional trolling.

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