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I would love to see what data you're going off of that suggests that a large factor of male on male violence is a direct result of men stepping in for the safety of a woman. Please share what source you have for this.
Regardless, even if 100% of male on male violence was somehow because a man physically put himself in the way of a woman being attacked, my advice is still sound. There'd still be plenty of women out there who experienced violence and have not experienced male allyship. Your point about men being more likely to be killed by men than a woman is doesn't really affect women's perception of men. If a woman views men as a threat, the best way to help is to demonstrate that men on the whole are not threats. It's unlikely that anything you do to make a woman on the street more comfortable will have a lasting impact on her perception of men. One of the best things you can do is show the women around you who know and believe you that you, an average man, are safe. Call out sexism in the workplace, be respectful of her boundaries. If more men did that then women would have more experience interacting with men they know are safe. This would change their perception of men as a whole. It's a whole thing. Desensitization.
You did not say anything refuting my point or even suggest an alternative. You just said that men are also targets, which is true, but not at all relevant to the question of how to make women feel safer. I'm providing the perspective of a woman who knows and regularly speaks to other women.
Calls for evidence followed by impossible to prove claims with no evidence of your own. Look if you're going to hold people to standards at least make some pretense of meeting your own standards.
Moving on, desensitising people to dangerous situations only makes them more likely to get injured due to complacency.
Because you're offerring simple solutions to complex problems, so it's clear what you are.
Since you refuse to provide evidence, I will assume you have none.
Here, enjoy this report on how one in five cases of sexual assault reported to police are not believed: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/
Are you suggesting that those situations are indeed inherently dangerous? If so, then why so uppity about their reactions? If not, then my point stands.
You are offering no solutions to the problems, while acting as though there is no cause to the problems.
Simple solutions can help complex problems. They're not the only way to do so, but they are a way. You are clearly not legitimately interested in women and their struggles though, so this comment is here more for posterity than anything else. May you have the day you deserve.
The report that doesn't provide any evidence for and isn't remotely relevant to this claim? I'll pass.
Please show me where I was 'uppity' about women's reactions. I don't need to offer solutions in order to critique your incredibly naive opinions on how to resolve societal issues.
I literally pointed out that there are dangerous men, and they're a problem. You're just making shit up.
Again, you're making shit up. This is a bullshit claim and has absolutely no basis in reality.
I'm simply not claiming to have solutions to a complex and difficult problem that I don't have, unlike yourself.
Ooh sassy today aren't we. Try kicking rocks, I suspect it'll be as productive as following any of your suggestions would be.