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That's the app/website.
However, isn't DeepSeek also Open Source software? I doubt that also sends data to China.
Ed Zitron says it works just as well/bad as silicon valley's toys but needs only a fraction of the resources, and the tech bros have their knickers in a twist.
So I'm a bit skeptical when american corporate media bashes deepseek.
You (and Ed, who I very much respect) are correct: DeepSeek software is open source*. But from the jump, their app and official server instance were plagued with security holes - most likely accidental ones, since they were harmful to DeepSeek itself! - and naturally their app sends data to China because China is where the app is from.
I do find it pretty funny that they were also sending data to servers in the US though. This isn't a China issue, it's a privacy/design issue, and even after they resolve the security holes they still receive your data. Same as OpenAI, same as every other AI company.
* DeepSeek releases genuinely open source code for everything except for its models, which exceeds industry standards. The models can be downloaded and used without restriction, and this is considered "Open" according to the OSI, but most other people would say it's not. I don't think it's open either. But again, they have gone above and beyond industry standards, and that is why "Open"AI is angry at them.
I'm sure open AI will just "borrow" their code and a new release will magically be just as efficient
Heh. OpenAI already accused them of training off their ChatGPT output. Hilarious if true (because fuck OpenAIq), but impressive if false.