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Israel will not stop war until Palestinians displaced from Gaza and Syria partitioned, minister says
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I voted for Harris.
But can you explain exactly how things would have gone differently in Gaza other than the rhetoric if Harris had won? She was all in on the genocide just like Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, etc.
Just because Harris was clearly the better choice overall doesn't mean she (and Biden) wasn't and isn't dead wrong about their fealty to Netanyahu.
My brother in Christ. Israeli officials were literally waiting for Trump to get elected. ~~They KNEW people like you were going to hand them the Gaza Strip. Acknowledge that you fucked up and move on with the rest of us~~.
Blinken tried to organize for other countries to allow Israel to ethnically cleanse Gaza and those countries to take in the Palestinians in Nov 2023. Then the other countries said "No". The Trump plans of this year arent fundamentally different. They are the same plans as the Democrats under Biden had. Just that Trump is louder about it.
Other countries were waiting for the new administration, since that would signal what our stance was going to be for the next 4 years. It's true that Trump doesn't care about Gaza, but he certainly would like to raze it and build some hotels. At the same time, people stateside might like to protest, but more and more are afraid of being whisked away by plainclothes nobodies to El Salvador. It is possible to say that Harris would not have done a better job stopping the genocide and also that she was still the correct answer.
I will remind any Democratic supporters of Israel that Israel is in league with Trump. I will not allow them to forget it.
I am most decidedly anti-Israel but voted for Harris due to the dozens of other issues that were different between the 2 candidates.
You and I and millions, I'm sure. But not enough. Even now, as the things he promised he would do come to fruition, people are still just... numb to it.
What did they do that you consider 'fucking up'?
~~Decided that abstaining and allowing Trump to be elected was somehow going to help us get more left-leaning politicians?~~
Could this be any clearer?
I honestly don’t know anymore what to do with this blue MAGA bs. You can say that you ate Harris out while voting for her but you don’t agree with her pro genocide stance and because you said one critical word they’d still tell you that you made Trump happen somehow?
Hello! I realized I was looking at a different comment chain, which made me think that.
Now:
Basically, what I think needed to happen is a) Harris wins narrowly, and b) we take the energy that people are just now starting to cultivate under Trump (i.e. as he does everything he promised to do and more, for the benefit of seemingly no one but him) and protest because Harris wasn't good enough. Americans cannot keep living in a world where every presidential election is life and death, because that guarantees fascism. The only good thing about what's going on right now is that leopards' faces are being eaten.
I did not want Harris because she wasn't a good enough candidate. Plain as. She was the better of the two candidates we have, but that's simply not good enough anymore. It hasn't been for what, four of the last five election cycles? We need more than two viable candidates (end FPTP), a fragmenting of parties (suicide while FPTP is active), and/or people to wake the fuck up.
So, nothing then, because they didn't do that; they explicitly said, right at the start, that they voted Harris.
You right! I think I was reading someone else's comment.
I'm neither a man nor a Christian tho.
Cool! People use that as an expression of exasperation.
Doing the both sides thing won’t help here. It distracts from the real problem.
That isn't both-sidesing.
I said that Harris was clearly better overall. I have a preference and I acted on it, which is the opposite of what both-sidesing is trying to achieve.
However, on the particular issue of genocide in Gaza, I only see differences in rhetoric, not differences in behavior.