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Free speech absolutism at work
Fascist speech absolutism at work
To Der Elon that's the same thing.
It’s frustrating that we knew he was full of shit when he was saying it. And now the evidence is showing it is bullshit. And it’s like it doesn’t even matter.
They know they can do that sort of shit because they hold the power. They can blatantly and unconvincingly lie, their followers will regurgitate those lies, but neither of them really believe them. They are just posturing and having fun with words, just like fascists always have done.
That's a neat quote, what's it from?
We knew it was bullshit about 3 days after he took over when he banned literally the 1 person he specifically said he was not going to ban.
https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1920426409358455081
"full of shit" = "standing up for free speech against governments that are trying to censor political opponents" ?
How is what you quoted "standing up" to anything? Am I missing something?
Yes. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you might have taken the quoted text and the link as being the same thing, when they are 2 separate things.
The X link is a post from X Global Government Affairs regarding this Turkey censorship situation. Some of the text from it:
Basically the government threatened X to censor that account in Turkey or face severe punishment, like many censorship-happy governments have done lately. X complied but are taking them to court over their order, like they have done with all the other censorship-happy governments who have done the same thing.
BlueSky banned the politicians account there btw. They aren't challenging the order in court.
You don’t seem to understand how the legal system and governments work.
They issued a legal request to censor his account in Turkey. Failure to do so would result in severe consequences for X, such as having to take X offline for all of Turkey.
X complied with the law and are challenging the censorship request in court, the only place that has the power to overrule the government.
I am not a lawyer but I do understand how jurisdictions work. Elon is not in theirs.
If he were a "free speech absolutist" as he claims, he would let them.
You didn't answer my question.
Elon isn’t. X is.
I did answer your question. Last paragraph.
No it is not. Twitter is a US company with US servers. If you want to argue that the US is now a territory of Turkey, please cite a source.
No you didn't.
X operates in Turkey by giving Turkish users access to the site. They either follow Turkish law or they don’t serve Turkish residents.
They can of course fight any legal requests by the Turkish government - and oh look! They are!
Do you know how legal requests work?