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I wish I had well-wishes to give. But Biden losing the republic because of his own hubris makes it difficult to care what trials and suffering lay in his future.
Conservatives: fuck everything up
You: How could Democrats do this?
Man, I'm usually one of the people on Lemmy who is, at least, defending that the Dems are not the core problem. I'm very vocal that the failure of the 2024 election was fundamentally a failure of the American people, wherein 1/3 of the country voted for fascism and 1/3 said they didn't fucking care.
But we lost by a small margin, and Biden choosing to stay in until it was clear that he could not command the confidence of the party - which was past the point when a primary could have been reasonably held - contributed no small amount to fucking us.
I'll generally agree with that, but attributing it to hubris is a bit much.
I dunno man, at the point where internal polling is showing you losing in a total massacre and your response is to double down and insist that you're the best candidate, that's some Greek tragedy level hubris.
And unfortunately, we're the ones who're going to be mourning the consequences.
Never attribute to malice that which could be explained by stupidity.
Hubris isn't malice, though.
I'm not sure lack of a primary was a problem. The last time we had a primary, there were several worthy candidates, including Harris, Warren, Mayor Pete, Klobuchar, and others. Yet, we still ended up with EVERYBODY'S last choice.
Bruh, Harris, Pete, and Klob all consistently polled under Biden as first choices before they dropped out.
And yet they were all worthy candidates, and far superior to Biden. That's a problem with the system, not the candidates, which is exactly my point.
That's a problem with the voters, man. That's my point. GIGO.
Zoo animals: *escape and start attacking people*
Him: How could the zookeepers do this?
You expect the zoo animals to follow their nature, but you also expect the zookeepers to do their job and keep them in their cages. The Democrats have consistently failed to do anything meaningful to fight the Republicans and are more interested in keeping the Democratic party establishment in power than actually beating the Republicans.
Man, I know I’m being naive but I truly want to believe that Biden honestly thought he had the best chance to beat Trump. Obviously he was wrong. But I just feel like he really believed that he had the best shot and trusted his gut until it was too late. It doesn’t make a difference ultimately. I just want to believe he cared genuinely about the nation and felt that the person most likely to beat Trump was the one who had already done it once before.
I shared your opinion early on, but when it came out that internal polling was showing Biden a massacre long before calls for him to drop out had become mainstream, it becomes clearer that it is at the very least immense hubris which led him forward rather than a rational-if-misguided estimation of his chances of victory.
I believe he was trusting his gut at a point where his gut was no longer worth trusting, and everyone around him could see it but he could not. A very harsh example of why there should be age maximums as well as minimums for elected office.
Edit: and I know this is dumb to bring up but I didn’t downvote your original comment. I see there’s a few downvotes there. I really value respectful conversations and try not to downvote people who I disagree with, who aren’t being harmful or hurtful.
Nah, no worries, I figured by your tone you weren't downvoting the original comment. It's fine anyway, my comment has several reasons for people to legitimately object to it.
People want more, and the problem is that they don't let them until it's too late. All that's left is to wait until 2026 for the congressional elections, and then 2028 for the presidential elections.
But seeing that tariffs are political suicide in the elections, it is likely that in the next elections the Democrats will regain control of Congress and even better if they manage to get a supermajority in the House.
All he had to do for you to stop carrying water for him was to get cancer.
Oh, look, it's our local fascist supporter.
Yes, everyone to your left and only your left is a fascist.
Bruh, you spend all your time carrying water for literal fucking fascists, apologizing for them, and licking their boots. You just made a comment about how it's better now that there's a Republican in the White House.
Accelerationists like you are fascists, no matter how much you swear up and down that you totally vote Dem while peddling every right-wing talking point you can get your hands on.
I made a comment about how the press is willing to admit that netanyahu is committing genocide in Gaza now that a republican is in the white house. I wouldn't call that better.
Guess again. I want democrats to be better. You want everyone to be happy that they're getting worse.
"It's amazing what having a republican in the white house will do"
Tell me more about how Dems in 2024 were worse than they were in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. Please. Go ahead. Say something that isn't a regurgitation of alt-right talking points fed to gullible performative leftists like you who don't give a single solitary fuck about the lives of marginalized groups.
That is, of course, assuming you are genuine in this, and just don't give a fuck that you're helping fascists if it helps you feel good, rather than being a believer in fascist ideology yourself.
I invite everyone reading this to also read the comment that was in reply to.
Here, I'll paste it for you:
I was saying that the press is admitting that it's a genocide now that the president is a republican. Of course you know this, but you're dishonest.
After all, you're calling me a fascist for being to your left on genocide. And cancer, evidently.
I literally called you out as an accelerationist. Or have you forgotten what that word means already? Perhaps your memory is going the route of Trump's.
You supported the election of Trump. You are far to the right of me on the ongoing Israeli genocide, not to mention the ongoing Ukrainian genocide.
Very telling that you can't answer how the Dems were "getting worse", though, typical of the quality of shit you shovel.
And a fascist and anything you thought would stick.
I did not. You assume that about anyone who has any criticism at all of biden before he got cancer and joined your lengthy shit list.
in 2009, they were actually willing to pass a minimum wage increase and at least pretended to pursue a public option. Something they haven't done since.
So now that you acknowledge that you've been called an accelerationist in the past, are you just pretending to not remember what an accelerationist is?
lmao
I suppose that would require some small amount of introspection for you to realize, and that's too horrible for you to contemplate.
... would you like to remind me what the Harris platform was on the minimum wage? Go on. Remind us all.
Both Clinton and Biden supported a public option. But hey, anything to spread misinformation in service to suppressing liberal turnout, right? You have fascists that you want to win.
I'm saying that you will say anything to demonize your left and only your left.
And now you're trying to pivot from the actions of democrats to the campaign promises of one democrat.
And biden promised to pursue it when in office. Then didn't. It was a lie.
lmao
Fascists aren't to my left, and neither are their supporters.
Okay, would you like to remind me what the Dem party platform in 2024 was on the minimum wage? Go on. Remind us all.
Jesus fucking Christ.
You scream "fascist" at anyone to your left.
A lie, same as it was in 2020.
No, I accuse people who materially contribute to the victory of fascists as being fascist supporters, which they are. Sorry that's too complex for you to parse.
Oh, okay, so it doesn't actually matter what left positions the Dems ran on, you'd just assert that it was all lies anyway.
What a surprise. This is my shocked face.
And by an astounding coincidence, you identify anyone to your left as "materially contributing to the victory of fascists."
I mean, I'm not the one who promised to revisit the public option and then didn't.
This has become a slapfight. I'm out.
lmao
Believe it or not, you and the rest of the "Sink the Dems at any cost" brigade are not the entirety of the left. Shocking, I know.
Wow, why didn't the Dems use their 50-50 'majority' to pass a deeply contentious bill that would have been unable to get all 50 Dems onboard regardless of the compromises involved, yet would need a 60-40 majority to pass???
Of course, if they'd tried, you would have condemned them for trying and wasting time on a meaningless gesture (which would be true) instead of doing real work.
The only thing you care about is making sure "the LIBS" lose and the fascists win. Because if the fascists are in power, you feel heroic when you roleplay as a leftist. The blood of minorities makes for great cosplay makeup, it would seem.
Sorry that you find details like "The actual composition of the Senate" to be troubling and mentioning it to be 'a slapfight'. Reality is troublesome to the whole "Dems are worse now than they've been in decades!" narrative, I know.
Doing the lords work, my man.
I'm so sick of watching these fascist fucks do their best to replace the empire they don't like with an empire they do like, all the while cosplaying as a modern leftist. These guys are left wing like Stalin was left wing.
You're trying to bait me into resuming your slapfight. No. Get your attention from someone else.
In another vein of Biden miraculously winning the election, apart from this news, the media is also reportedly discussing the possible first female president in case Biden's cancer becomes complicated.