266
Pentagon draws up rules on possible use of force by Marines deployed to LA protests
(www.nbclosangeles.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
266 points (100.0% liked)
News
30221 readers
5891 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
While I agree that their comment didn't add much to the discussion, it's possible that you used more electricity to type out your response than it did for them to post theirs.
It's estimated that a single ChatGPT prompt uses up ~0.3 Wh of electricity.
If @[email protected] is on a desktop computer browsing the internet using electricity at a rate of ~150 W, and @[email protected] is on a smartphone, then you would only have ~16 seconds to type up a response before you begin using more electricity than they did.
Some math
150Wh/60min/60sec = 0.041666 Wh every secondOr about 2.5 Wh every minute.
It's not just about the environmental impact.
If you're an expert in a specific field, you should interrogate these LLMs to see how accurate they actually are
When you see how fucking wrong they are about shit you have a firm grasp on, you will immediately stop trusting it regarding ANYTHING.
Yeah, if you're relying on them to be right about anything, you're using it wrong.
A fine tuned model will go a lot further if you're looking for something specific, but they mostly excel with summarizing text or brainstorming ideas.
For instance, if you're a Dungeon Master in D&D and the group goes off script, you can quickly generate the back story of some random character that you didn't expect the players to do a deep dive on.
Oooh, do mobile power usage next!
I didn't factor in mobile power usage as much in the equation before because it's fairly negligible. However, I downloaded an app to track my phone's energy use just for fun.
A mobile user browsing the fediverse would be using electricity around a rate of ~1 Watt (depends on the phone of course and if you're using WiFi or LTE, etc.).
For a mobile user on WiFi:
In the 16 seconds that a desktop user has to burn through the energy to match those 2 prompts to chatGPT, that same mobile user would only use up ~0.00444 Wh.
Looking at it another way, a mobile user could browse the fediverse for 18min before they match the 0.3 Wh that a single prompt to ChatGPT would use.
For a mobile user on LTE:
With Voyager I was getting a rate of ~2 Watts.
With a browser I was getting a rate of ~4 Watts.
So to match the power for a single prompt to chatGPT you could browse the fediverse on Voyager for ~9 minutes, or using a browser for ~4.5 minutes.
I'm not sure how accurate this app is, and I didn't test extensively to really nail down exact values, but those numbers sound about right.
So one, I'm on solar, and I was on a thin and light laptop.
However, I was also running the electric kettle at the time for a nice cup of hater tears.
How much energy would the electric kettle take relative to a single push to a GPT?
Depends on the electric kettle, the first few I looked at on amazon run at ~600-800 Watts.
So, on the lower end there, you're looking at about 0.166 Wh every second.
So a single push to chatGPT (0.3 Wh) uses about the same energy as an electric kettle does in less than 2 seconds.
so if it take 3 minutes to run the kettle, that would be around say..
150 or so calls to a GPT?
Yeah, ~100-133 depending on how much energy your electric kettle uses.