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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

1M dead

That is an extremely implausible number. Where in the world did you hear it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Ukraine regularly reports Russian casualties and destroyed equipment. The Russian casualty number ticked over 1M a few days ago. I'm guessing 'casualty' got lost in translation at some point and turned into 'killed'. I do see people making this mistake a lot with casualties, which is both killed and wounded.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

You can't believe any side 100% when it come to casualities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

So the source is Ukraine? That does not seem like a particularly reliable source for this, particularly given some of the impossibly high numbers present on that graph.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps this map will help:

To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

The puppet regimes of Jordan and Egypt won't last forever. When they fall, the settlers will find themselves up against over 200 million Arabs in their immediate vicinity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Iran has 82 million inhabitants.

The amount of people willing to die for this regime is much much smaller. 16% are Azerí, 10% Kurds and 2% Balochi, all groups who would rather die than fight for the IRI. Not that this would stop the IRI from pressing 15 year olds into service, but there wouldn't be many volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

You are delusional that most iranians won't defend their country just because the regime is evil

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Just listed you 3 major groups who do not see themselves as Iranian, because the country doesn't do that either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

The Supreme Leader is Azeri though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yes sure they will side with Israel literally indiscriminately killing Iranians regardless on how they feel about the Iranian nationality . This is so stupid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

This isn't about siding with anyone. You're putting words in my mouth. I never said the majority would not take up arms, I said there are groups who are ikely not to pick up arms.

There is no Iranian nationality, there is a core of Persian Iranians, who are considered the only Iranians and then there are peripheral groups. Those groups neither feel Iranian, nor do they like the central government.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago

They don't have to like the Iranian government to want to fight against Israel attacking them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

true. there was almost certainly a lot of inside help getting attack drones near the sites hit on Friday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

There was aways collaborators and traitors in every war and conflict

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

By comparison, a large amount of Israelis are ultra-religious nutjobs that refuse to join their army. And of course many of them have european and american passports and houses in the west to flee to. Colonialism pays. Iran has the right on their side, their people will certainly put their backs into it to a greater degree than Israel.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.

The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.

The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.

Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

And by "bullying anyone" you mean active countermeasures against the party, which FOR YEARS has been suggesting to wipe the country off the globe, and was aiming to create nuclear weapons just for that.

How "convenient" of you to skip the public death wishes before being neutralized. 💁

/S

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The regime will only have a chance to fsll if israel is the one sending on ground troops

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

You can't trust any number when it come to conflicts but will minimize the number of their casualities and overexageratr thr casuality of the other side