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Voting in the threadiverse (en.m.wikipedia.org)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hi,

i want to explore the various way we can highlight content.

Currently, on the threadiverse, we use vote to show our approval, discontent...and we can couple it with a bot for moderation. Or hide post below a certain score...

Some instance completly removed downvote as Beehaw. Piefed is experimenting private vote. On other fediverse software, mastodon, iceshrimp, there is no downvote and we use emojis to express our feelings.

You also have website as https://slashdot.org/ where you can tell that comment was insightfull or a troll, or funny...

There is also also website that compare software or video as https://tournesol.app/

Do you think vote sould be private ? Public ? And why ?
Are you sastified with the current voting system ? And why ?
What other interesting software/website that tried something different do you know ?
What way do you imagine to highlight content and improve search, discoverability ?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you can’t downvote just wrong information anymore.

If "wrong information" can be properly defined, then either you challenge it (by responding, calling it out) or by reporting it. Downvoting it just because it you think it is not appropriate is a recipe for creating echo chambers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The problem then is that by responding, you're engaging with it which typically helps it spread in the algorithms*. Ideally there should be multiple downvote options - maybe separate it out as "misinformation" vs "bad opinion" or something. Removing downvotes and banning users who disagree is the typical cult strategy (recall the classic cult sub, r/thedonald, was notorious for this). If you're worried about downvotes being used to silence people, maybe another way to mitigate that would be a "sort by downvoted" option so that being downvoted a lot could actually put you at the top of at least that feed.

*On Lemmy, notice the following:

Active (default): Calculates a rank based on the score and time of the latest comment, with decay over time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The problem then is that by responding, you’re engaging with it which typically helps it spread in the algorithms*

But then the solution is to fix "the algorithms". One more reason that I should say we should get rid of "votes" is that they are an artificial constraint created by the closed social media platforms that gate-keep and limit user choice. If "the alogorithms" are plentiful, easy to customize, and chosen by the user, then everyone is able to rank and sort the data as they see fit.

Removing downvotes and banning users who disagree is the typical cult strategy

The only ones with power to remove contents are moderators and admins. If moderation is transparent (as it should be), then it is easy to figure out if mods are are acting in good faith and according to the interests with the community. Then it is up to us as users to figure out if we should continue participating in that community or leave it behiind.