this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2023
39 points (95.3% liked)

Aotearoa / New Zealand

1802 readers
2 users here now

Kia ora and welcome to !newzealand, a place to share and discuss anything about Aotearoa in general

Rules:

FAQ ~ NZ Community List ~ Join Matrix chatroom

 

Banner image by Bernard Spragg

Got an idea for next month's banner?

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I guess they didn’t want people to end up calling it P Road

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

What percentage of NZ could actually pronounce it though? It's an absolute mouthful.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Papa-kanga-horo-horo. Eight syllables, pretty straightforward. My Māori is pretty trash, but after one read of it and a handful of times saying it out loud it's pretty simple.

My advice to anyone complaining about it is to just say it out loud a few times. I guarantee that by the time you've said it to the moving company, the power company, the insurance company and your mum, you'll have it locked down.

It also has the added bonus of being completely unique, so there's no chance of your ambulance being dispatched to park terrace on the other side of town while you're choking on park road.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's definitely a lot easier when you break it up like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, Māori is actually pretty easy to pronounce if you break it apart. There are only five vowel sounds and they don't change depending on context like with English. The only downside is that names are often comprised of several words smooshed together, so you have to pick it apart yourself the first time you read it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I can say shmutzfangmatten then I can say Papakangahorohoro. I bet half the people complaining wouldn't be if they were trying to name it for a (hypothetical) historical German doormat factory instead of giving it a perfectly cromulent Maori name (I think something to do with earthquakes?).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I definitely couldn't pronounce shmutzfangmatten though, and I doubt most of NZ could either. I also think there would be a similar push back if you tried to name a street that.

Kinda a ridiculous hypothetical to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it is much easier when you read it and then say what you read.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I don't know man. It would just take a couple of tries to get it and then get used to it like pretty much anything new?

Honestly I've never cared what the name of the street I lived on was or how long it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Eh Māori stuff is generally reasonably easy to pronounce, I'd say that having to constantly type it out would be a far bigger issue!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Get over yourself, we can al do Ngāruawāhia well enough cant we?

I'm 50 this coming birthday, had little Te Reo at small white town NZ schools, lived in the UK for 1/3 of my adult life, and would have little issue with that as my street address

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd wager a very big chunk of the population would misspell it though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

with the eye's on it in the media and people like you getting upset over it - I doubt it, unless you/they are deliberately being obtuse

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is a spectacularly out of touch comment to be honest, not everyone spends hours reading the news and arguing about it with strangers on the Internet, you know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

oh my god - just give up. Its not that hard a name to spell when we have places like Foveaux Strait, Balmacewen, Corstorphine just to name a few non Te Reo name that are 'hard to spell' or are a 'mouthful'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those are also a mouthful, and are probably a hassle for the people that live there. I don't see how that makes creating a headache for these people acceptable?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

How is using our only codified written language a headache - really?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

what? it's three different sounds