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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay can we not glorify America's 21st century batch of war criminals?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The list of “American Presidents that weren’t deeply problematic as individuals” is a very short one, and I think the only one I’ve heard a good argument for is ole Jimmy Carter.

But Trump is still magnitudes more problematic than any of the other individuals listed, and it’s whataboutism like yours that led us here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Woo! Keep white-washing the Bush admin baby! After all, they only laid the foundational policy for every administration to follow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Whataboutism? What the heck? I'm saying we shouldn't glorify war criminals in response to a comment glorifying war criminals. Glorifying the people who paved the way for fascism is a very bad way to fight fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would say it was liberal willingness to normalize and even lionise bloodthirsty war criminals like Bush that led us here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I fully agree with you on Bush.

I fully disagree on Obama.

I don't fully agree on Biden, but I can see where you have points to be made for your case.

All in all kind of a mixed bag really.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

For Obama, setting aside the war on terror business and keeping Guantanamo open, enjoy. There's no definition of the word "war criminal" that doesn't include Obama.