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The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel is a fascist apartheid state that is currently carrying out ethnic cleansing. I think it's rather fitting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Israel is a democracy with a far-right government, not fascism. Even though the situation in the Westbank might be similar to Apartheid. Nazi-Germany executed an industrial murder of over 6 million Jews, this is not the same!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

Sorry no. You can't be an apartheid state and call yourself a democracy. That's not how words work.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Whoever told you Israel is a democracy lied to you. Israel is a democracy the way Apartheid South Africa was a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Sure, there is democracy in Israel, but it is more similar to the one that existed among whites in apartheid South Africa than it is to the democracy that currently exists in the United Kingdom or France.

UNICEF has reported more than 50,000 children have been killed or injured in Gaza. At what number do you become comfortable with the comparison? 1 million? 2 million?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In terms of being accurate with our history, dont forget that 17 million people died in those camps, not just 6 million jewish people. In the movies its always solely jewish people being murdered. Russian citizens, soldier, catholics, gypsies, gays, disabled. we never talk about that extra 11 million dead, and each of those lives was as precious as your own life, or any other humans life. The takeaway from that should be that no genocide will ever be allowed again, of any race or any people. That obviously includes Palestinians and Muslims.

What do you think datadroplet, do you agree?

edit: and of course, datadroplet declines to comment about that. Seems like denial of genocide to me which I believe is against lemmys rules.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the millions of Poles

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Dang. Good call, yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Israel is a democracy with a far-right government,

IOW - people actually fucking voted for this. That's even worse, since that means that the general populace shares greater culpability.