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The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

For some balance: the UK hate speech laws despite what the daily mail push have been applied relatively evenly with the intent of preventing violence which has been a problem in the UK in several cases where innocents were unfairly targeted then attacked.

I'm not really one way or the other regarding the BBC decision, I can see it both ways and the footage will be out there regardless of their choice. I personally support the message being free speech and for the public to make their judgement.

Re the police reviewing it. This can often happen with high profile stuff even if it's to officially class it as free speech, so no one can say it was ignored and the were discriminated against. However if the police find it to be anything other than free speech based on current events, I would find that highly concerning. He didn't say death to Jews, or Israel, it was specific to the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

And we strongly condemn these governments that keep protecting genocidal maniacs

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago

Of course, everybody knows that “free, free Palestine” is “very strong and discriminatory language” if you are member of genocidal IDF.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago

💀💀2IDF

FUCK THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE

IDF are a bunch of genocidal terrorist fascist fucks

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

Starmer, fall on a stake.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please show me where the UK Government condemned “death to the Arabs” chants from Israelis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

The British Government considers being Arab as synonymous with being a terrorist. Not, incidentally, any differently than how Israelis see them.

Of course, the Brits were a colonial power that spent centuries quelling domestic revolts in order to extract natural resources and exploiting cheap labor. Also, not that different from their Israeli peers.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just chiming in with some lyrics from the great musician, Tim Minchin

And if you look into your motherfucking heart and tell me true

If this motherfucking stupid fucking song offended you

With its filthy fucking language and its fucking disrespect

If it made you feel angry, go ahead and write a letter

But if you find me more offensive than the fucking possibility

~~The pope protected priests when they were getting fucking fiddly~~ The IDF shot civilians when they were getting hungry

Then listen to me, motherfucker, this here is a fact:

You are just as morally misguided as that motherfucking

Power-hungry, self-aggrandised bigot in the ~~stupid fucking hat~~ Israeli government

Fuck the IDF, and fuck every single piece of shit making excuses for murdering civilians for the unholy crime of being born somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

This is the energy I like to see.

Fuck everybody who goes along with, denies, or minimizes terrorism and genocide, no matter who they are.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)

80k dead and 130k injured, starvation, displacement, murdered by settlers.

But a chant is "deeply offensive". Take your fucking offense, fold it until it's all sharp corners and shove it up your ass, BBC.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

Ah, good old New Labour, siding with the modern day Nazis committing their very own Holocaust in Gaza.

The UK is almost as fucked up as the US.

(Though, judging by the march of 600k people against the Genocide, most Brits are not, and it's the power and money elites that, as usual, can't stop themselves from loving the most violent Fascism and Fascists same as when a young princess Elizabeth was being taught by her uncle and then King how to do a Nazi salute - the whole ubermenschen vs untermenshen view of the World seems to have massive appeal amongst British elites).

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

UK and US thought police on patrol. Bought and owned by the rich fatcats to promote their personal religious agenda using the state monopoly of the use of force on protestors not doing any harm to anyone. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any negative statements toward Isreal are considered antisemitism by the right. What a joke

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The right, who are outright Nazis claiming to be against “anti-semitism” is such a fucking ludicrous joke.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (46 children)

"Death to the IDF" is not what I would chant, but it's honestly mild compared to the kinds of slogans (eg. "Death to Arabs" and "Let your village burn") West-funded, West-supported, West-armed, and West-protected-from-accountability Israeli fanatics chant before committing actual fucking atrocities. Hell, it's mild compared to the Amalek rhetoric of Israeli state leadership.

Edit: why is "death to the IDF" mild compared to "death to Arabs"? You can choose to not join or to leave the IDF (it might cost you some jail time, but if that's the price for keeping one's soul, so be it). You can at the very least not self-identify with it and distance yourself from what it has become. Basically, there are many off ramps out of the IDF. There are no ramps off of existing as an Arab.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's about as narrowly targeted a chant as you can get.

It's not about jews. It's not about israelis. It's specifically the army of israel. If that's not narrowly targeted enough, what's acceptable? "Down with the members of the IDF who intentionally target civilians but not those members of the IDF who are willing to risk a court martial to make sure that they only attack valid military targets?" Doesn't make a very good chant.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Good point, the IDF, being an occupying army, under international law is absolutely a legitimate target for violent armed Palestinian resistance

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Absolutely! It's in the choice. You consciously choose to be part of the IDF, you aren't born into it, and thus it's not a hateful statement. You know, except for BBC weaklings

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

"I don't give a fuck if you speak on my name. Just make sure when you fucking speak on it, you speak it in capitals V-Y-L-A-N"

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