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xkcd #3109: Dehumidifier

Title text:

It's important for devices to have internet connectivity so the manufacturer can patch remote exploits.

Transcript:

[A store salesman, Hairy, is showing Cueball a dehumidifier, with a "SALE" label on it. Several other unidentified devices, possibly other dehumidifier models, are shown in the store as well.]

Salesman: This dehumidifier model features built-in WiFi for remote updates.
Cueball: Great! That will be really useful if they discover a new kind of water.

Source: https://xkcd.com/3109/

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I got new appliances a couple weeks ago and they're all "smart". Turns out a smart microwave just sends you a phone notification when it's done. By default.

As someone with multiple people living in the house, I can confidently say this is the dumbest "smart" feature ever. Promptly disabled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How long are people microwaving things to the point where that is useful??!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

if it don't complete under a Tiktok I ain't waiting!

/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

You joke but attention spans are so pitifully short after the brain rot exacerbated by rapid-fire on-demand content that I'm sure plenty of people have started a microwave, wandered away, and completely forgot about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone who hates appliances beeping, I love push notifications

I'm so tired at things beeping at me

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any appliance with IoT is a value-subtract.

They do it so in the future they can monetize you in perpetuity in some way

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I can see value in HVAC IoT. Away from home and there's a cold spell? Turn up the heating so your pipes don't freeze, but also run it higher when electricity is cheaper (if you have variable pricing).

I don't think I'd want my microwave, washing machine, or toilet to have IoT features though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My toilet sings when I lift the lid or sit down. I kind of wish I could upload a new song after all these years

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

American toilets get Singing toilets before bidets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

For that price, does it at least wash and dry your ass automatically? I can't imagine paying 10k for a toilet for lights and music lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I want my washing machine to notify my phone when a cycle completes... But maybe not quite that much

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Mine chimes a quaint little song. It's enough because it can be heard pretty much anywhere in the house unless I'm in the basement. If I'm not home, the notification wouldn't be particularly useful - I might as well just check when I get home.

I mean the idea isn't the absolute worst. I just don't think it's a huge QoL improvement either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any decent heating system will have a thermostat which will activate the heating when it's getting cold. Also no need for internet to be able to setup the time when electricity is cheaper. It's not like it's something you need to do regularly. Setting this all up directly on the heating system works well enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

With day ahead pricing it changes... Daily.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My appliances are ‘smart’ but I didn’t bother actually connecting them to my WiFi. I guess preheating the oven remotely could be cool(?) but nah.

The stuff I do use…

The microwave above the stove can talk via Bluetooth(no app or phone involvement at all). Turn on a burner and you can set it to turn on the light and/or vent fan. Another nicety is being able to set the clock on the stove with the full keypad and it just syncs to the microwave.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remote preheating sounds like a terrible idea. What if you mistakenly left something in there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

we need to add cloud connected cameras! oh and AI detection, that prevents you turning it on even if it's empty, but also if there's no network or if you need to do your yearly password update

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Who mistakenly leaves things in an oven?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Well, there was at least that one time

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only smart thing I'd want an oven to do would be to turn itself off. That's it, really. Did I leave the oven on after I left the house? Easy fix. Otherwise everything else is pretty much useless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't know, I wouldn't mind also being able to tell it to start to preheat while I'm on my way home. Would save a chunk of time if I could literally walk in the door and throw the food in the oven without the extra wait for it to preheat which is usually long enough to be annoying but not long enough to do anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

My stove won't preheat, I guess because it's a safety issue. Apparently you can set a remote start capability ahead of time that gets reset if you open the over door. But I've never tried it, since that seems like a lot.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most people tend to stay in the same room (or a neighbouring room) when they're microwaving something. They could probably save on the cost of having a full-blown computer with wifi inside the microwave by just having the noisy thing from an alarm clock. But, ah, the fuck do I know?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some 90's microwaves actually used some chips to measure humidity and using a little reference table adjust how long certain foods need to cook for, for instance, popcorn can be popped perfectly without burning and almost without leftover kernels if you can measure how much water is being released. The same goes for cooking frozen meats, vegetables, and so on.

But what we get in modern ones instead are horrendous touchscreens, simple timers that never quite match the food they promise to work on, and Wi-Fi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You gotta spend for the moisture sensors and other fancy shit that actually works. We moved into a place with one of those microwaves and we are dreading when it breaks (I think it's like 3k for a new one)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

a full blown computer, depending on how one defines the term, is so cheap that they are available in disposable pregnancy tests. This shouldn't be a thing because of the E waste and inefficiency but it's how things are.