MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
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I bet the dv's are from .world brigaders too
.ml has a persistent myth that it's all lemmy.world that is "against them" and dislikes the Russian government. It's part of their attempt to pretend they are the majority. By implication, every other Lemmy instance is neutral, apparently, except "the liberal instances" (which turns out to be basically all of them).
I'm sure the downvotes are from off-instance brigaders, if you want to call it that. I have no idea why they would be centralized to lemmy.world, and I doubt they are.
I go by what I see here and with my own eyes, there.
How did you come to conclusion that the downvotes were probably .world brigaders?
I think we both know how disingenuous this is. The thread posted, dv's started rolling in. And I think it's sad people who vicariously self-validate with hypocritical, attention - seeking behavior in the same manner as politicians they whine about use the same behaviors and same "plausible deniability." Sadder still that rather than taking a moment to explore the reflection of the shadow that got us our current politicians, more of the same behavior.
At least two itt were hardcore genocide deniers wrt Palestine, when I got here and now act like they thought it was always plain to see. I hope the situation regarding Russia, Ukraine, and the USA isn't as dire as that before people start at least looking at information provided by those users, repeatedly, since I got here. Because I used to be in denial, too.
So when did you see the lemmy.world downvotes with your own eyes? Here or there?
Lol I'm just messing with you, honestly. I don't think there is all that much productive exchange to be had here.
I'm not. You know exactly what I'm talking about. And you said you were doing better. Are you?
Yeah. Maybe.
lemmy.ml and friends have a really weird habit that I still haven't completely figured out. They will swear something that isn't factually true, and then if asked to justify it, they'll switch to something the vibes of which more or less line up with the claim, but the facts of which have nothing to do with it.
Here, watch, I'll prove it: Who are the two people itt who were hard-core Palestinian genocide deniers? What did they say that was denying the genocide?
I can guarantee that the statement they made will not be denying the genocide. Absolutely 100% guarantee. Instead, it will be "well they said Hamas shouldn't have raped a bunch of people and that's basically the same thing" or something along those lines. But, the shoot-from-the-hip confident assertion of "hardcore genocide deniers" will turn out to be poppycock. I think it is sort of self-selecting that only people who are comfortable with that kind of shifty vibe-y MAGA-adjacent logic stick around on lemmy.ml, because it is so endemic there that you can't really tolerate the place unless you are fully on board with it.
Prove me wrong. Who are the genocide deniers and when did they deny the genocide? Like I say, in my view there is a 100% chance that it turns out that what they said will turn out to be something different than "there is no genocide in Palestine" but you will make the effort to pretend that it's all the same and so who cares. But who knows, maybe I'm just running my mouth and they are here in all their Zionist glory, in the room with us right now.
I said I'm not, and you want me to embarrass decent people. You're better than this. You're worth the uncomfortable work.
My mental stability or lack thereof has nothing to do with you offering up made-up nonsense to try to prove your points
Okay 🙂
well of the people downvoting this “theory” of yours right now, 3 of 13 are .world so i’d wager that’s a load of crap
and as for brigading, .ml users get downvoted to hell across to fediverse in comments… their opinions are just horrible and their arguments are not made in good faith
Muh evil brigaders