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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You know the funny thing?

You can still buy appliances that last and have good service.

But you don't earn enough to afford them, like your parents did.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is not the case. Washers used to be more expensive as a proportion of median income back then. According to this page a new Kenmore washer cost $289 in 1980. The median family income in 1980 was $21,023, so a new washer would cost 1.37% of a family's annual income. Compare to now, where the median household income is $83,150. As a proportion of median income, a $289 washer in 1980 would cost about $1500 today, which is about what a durable, well made washer with a 7 year warranty costs. Manufactured goods were largely more expensive compared to wages in the past.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Median income isnt the whole story as rent, transportation, medical, and other costs have increased at a greater rate so people dont have the money to buy the 1500 dollar washing machine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

That is true to an extent, but the main point is that it's not like the past was a glorious land of milk and honey where everything was cheaper and easier. I am always amazed when I see how much things used to cost back then compared to incomes, especially TVs and other electronics. That's a big part of the "built to last" reputation of older goods- they were literally built better, but they were also priced accordingly. A cheap appliance back then was a used one. There simply wasn't an option to buy a cheap one new.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is very nice of you, looking up the numbers stating exactly what i said. thanks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. I am saying that these well made appliances are just as affordable today as they were back then, but most people want the cheaply made alternatives, and manufactured goods were generally less affordable back then than they are now. People generally just had less stuff in the past, and paid more for it. You simply couldn't buy a new washer for the same fraction of your income as the cheap ones today. A lot of things are worse for us economically than for our parents but this simply isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understood that. the point you don't understand is that people today HAVE LESS MONEY than their parents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Do you know what median means?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meh. Buy them second hand. Not even joking. As you said, good one last forever. while there's a bit of a logistics difficulty with second hand large appliances, you can also just rent a van for the day and ask a friend for help.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Problem is you don't know how well it was maintained /cared for by its former owner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should be able to get parts, though. It's better to replace a part on a machine that will last 20 years than a part on one that will last 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Only if it's worth fixing instead of replacing the thing outright. If you have a cheap washer, it may be cheaper to just get another, rather than having to call the repairman and get parts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory applies...

A Speed Queen set sure would be nice to have.