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Gas chambers were first trialled in October 1939 and went into regular use in early 1940.
Hitler came to power in January 1933. So it took 6 years and 8 months (or 80 months in total) to get from getting to power to gassing people.
Hitler only started mass deportations in October 1938, so 5 years and 8 months (or 68 months) after he got to power.
Trump has been in power for less than 6 months now.
Ok but there isn't really a totally perfect correspondence. Arguably Trump hasn't even started "mass deportations", just extremely brutal ones. They aren't actually managing to deport people faster than the previous administration right now, and Obama still holds the record by far. Anyway the important thing is it's not a one-to-one "they are deporting people so we are 80% of the way from them seizing power to death camps".
Of course it's not a 1:1. It's a counter to people thinking that the holocaust started five minutes after Hitler was in office.
Things take time, even horribly atrocities.
And saying "So far people haven't been gassed, so it's not an issue and the comparison to Hitler is invalid" doesn't really make much sense if you take into consideration how long it took for the Nazis to get to the point of Holocaust and WW2.
Oh, sorry, we're saying the same thing, I misunderstood your comment - I thought by "trump has only been in office six months" you were saying that was the equivalent of six years of the Nazis and that we should expect death camps in September.
Yeah, the schedule is not identical, he might be a few years ahead of schedule for the deportations, but then again his predecessors have already laid the groundwork for that.
But it's not a specific schedule that he has to follow.
I just really don't like the line of argument that comes up far to often that Trump can't be the new Hitler because Trump hasn't transformed the USA into 1945 Nazi Germany on the inauguration day. Neither did Hitler. It took him 5-6 years to start the holocaust and WW2, and even then the biggest atrocities still took a few more years on top of that.
No, you can compare it to Hitler.
But keep to the facts and don't use a slippery slope fallacy.
"It will be as bad as the Holocaust" is still different from "It is as bad as the Holocaust". One of them can be prevented.
No need to go with "slippery slope", instead go with "believe that Trump says the truth when he talks about what he wants".
It's easy to assume that Trump always lies, considering how freely he lies about everything.
But he said he would disable the courts and he did. He said he would deport people with no regard to their legal status and he did. He said he would not follow due process and he did.
He lies to defame and to get his way, he does not lie about what he wants to do.
Believe him when he says that there will be no more election. Believe him when he says he will go for a third term, and certainly believe him when he says he wants to be a dictator. Believe him when he says that removing immigrants from the US will be a bloody story.