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They may very well be, though given the devastation to their infrastructure, it seems increasingly unlikely.
And anyone is welcome to come and discuss all the various and voluminous crimes of the Israeli state, so long as they do not advocate for violence.
My old roomate's brother was a doctor during one of the multiple illegal Israeli occupations of Southern Lebanon.
The IDF would show up at his house in the middle of the night, tell him if he resisted he would be shot, haul him off to god knows where to treat some prisoner, and then dump him at the side of the road like so much garbage.
Want to call to end that? Great! Prosecute that shit? Absolutely. Call for the deaths of everyone involved? That crosses the line and will get your shit removed.
Putting aside how legal prosecution is absolutely violence, state intervention is violence, laws are violemce. They're just a certain sort of violence tgat you support, that targets but does not protect some people and protects but does not target others. Which was my entire point about what you believe and thank you for finally acknowledging that.
Putting that and how good it feels to hear mostly aside for a moment:
A former head of msf once said that the only way to stop a genocide once it gets started in earnest is killing the perpetrators. Nothing i have ever read contradicts this. You let them kill til theyre sated, or you fucking kill them.
Anything less is permission. Anything less is a call to let them keep killing. Anything kess than a call to violently stop them, is a call for their violence to continue. Condemnation of calls to violently stop them, unless some other force is in place and acting, is a powerful endorsement of their actions. A state in genocidal bloodlust tends to stay in genocidal bloodlust unless acted upon. Pretty sure that's from a math textbook.
These mother fuckers post their war crimes on fucking tiktok, they've been doing it for years without consequence. Saying 'call for them to be prosecuted!' is a slightly more repulsive rephrasing of 'lubricate your favirite sex toy with the blood of palestinian children, queue up some murder videos, then shove it up your ass until you're shivering with pleasure'. It is a call to violence. Particularly gross particularly spectacular violemve.
When institutions support violence, calling for those same institutions to magically stop being evil, to just stop for no reason but your asking, is supporting violence. It's saying "this violence is there right. How dare you call for them to suffer in kind?".
When calls BDS gets called and potentially punished as terrorism, by the governments of nuclear armed world powers, anything short of violence is not opposition.
And it sucks. Not a fan of violence. That is why i believe the zionists must be killed, and killed not just killed until they stop, but killed until they lose the capacity to restart violence. Because that, or fucking ultra-genocide world war 3 are the only two options they have left us. Anything short of 'zionists must die' is 'i masturbate to ultra genocide world war three'. There's more to it than that; mostly fridge horror about the political implications of their whole project, but it doesnt really matter here.
The non-violent options are off the table. They blew up the part of the table those options were on, repeatedly, for decades longer than I've been alive, and now there isnt enough table for both parties. Which violence do you endorse? Silence is a vote for zionist terror groups like the idf. Go.
Your OPINION is that laws and prosecution are violence, that's absolutely not the case and really only fringe elements legitimately believe that.
Laws and prosecution are the cornerstones of society, going back to Hamurabi.
You're welcome to be an anarchist if you want, you're WRONG, but you have the right to be wrong. 😉
Are you kidding me? It’s not fringe. It’s settled fact. It’s foundational to statehood itself. Please pick up a polysci for dummies book, of ask any LLM. They’ll all tell you that the state enforces its laws through its monopoly on violence and the threat thereof. Deeply unserious.
LOL. The world exists outside polysci textbooks. You'll find that out when you actually leave college.
I’m older than you, dummy.
centrists love imagining that everyone they disagree with is younger than they are and therefore wrong.