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The problem is that we absolutely can build a sustainable society on our own. We've had the blueprints forever, the Romans worked this out centuries ago, the problem is that there's always some power seeking prick who messes it up. So we gave up trying to build a fair society and just went with feudalism and then capitalism instead.
The Romans had a slave economy. I don't really think that counts as sustainable or even having worked it out.
So do we. We just leave them in another country so we don't have to think about them.
Lol.
they had reusable poop sponges what more do you want??
More sponges to begin with.
The worst person you know is still just a meatbag, same as anyone else. Jeff Amazon himself has no power but what others, operating within one weird system, grant him.
Problem is we let the pricks run things, or we become the pricks ourselves.
Trick is figuring out how to stop both those things from happening. Must be tricky, given how it keeps happening. But we're a clever species. We landed on the moon, took pictures of the backside of our star, spilt the atom, etc. We can figure out good economics and governance.
None of those things directly threatened the power of an oligarch.
They are examples of complex and difficult tasks that humans are capable of when working together, implying through comparison reordering society is also achievable.
The Romans were one of the most extractive and wasteful empires in history. Wtf are you on about????
Heading back towards feudalism.