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New survey data from the nonprofit American Student Assistance shows that teen interest in college is down while interest in nondegree paths is on the rise.

Meanwhile, parents are skeptical of options outside the traditional college pathway to work.

Nearly half of all students surveyed – 45% – weren't interested in going to college. About 14% said they planned to attend trade or technical schools, apprenticeships and technical boot camp programs, and 38% were considering those options.

66% of teens surveyed said parents supported their plans to pursue a nondegree route, compared with 82% whose parents encouraged them to attend college.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Boomers set up this world where only a college degree mattered, then they tore that world down.

Do whatever you want, kids. We're all totally F'ed anyhow.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They just required it for racist reasons.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Ding ding ding!

HBCUs didn't just appear for fun. They were founded to address segregation in higher education.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

considering how bad the tech job market is right now? Completely worthless.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Different tech. It’s my understanding this is being used interchangeably with what many people know as “trade schools”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is it really? Also I've had a tech job for 20 years and my degree is not in the field. I didn't need a degree. Many of my colleagues are self-taught developers. I didn't know that tech jobs were so hard to come by now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The data I've seen is that it's mainly bad on the entry level

https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-popular-college-major-has-one-highest-unemployment-rates-2076514

But this is focused on comparing college degree outcomes in entry level rather than degree + non-degree. Also the longer term studies that consider career outcomes degree vs trade vs non-degree/trade certifications long term regardless of career path

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I've been job hunting for almost 2 full years now, can barely get interviews. I put out 30-50 app's a week.

9 years IT experience between helpdesk, field work, desktop support, and cyber security.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think boomers set it up that way. I think boomers were the first to grow up into a world where a college degree was almost required to get ahead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No they werent. They could buy houses with a min wage job. Dont speak on things you know absolutely nothing about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You could, but it would be a house with no indoor plumbing. My grandpa lived in one. Gotta shit in the outhouse.

Houses got much bigger since then and the home ownership rate stayed at around 60% basically forever. If it was so easy, why didn't everyone do it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never said that boomers did not benefit from it, I said that they didn't set it up that way. They benefited, exploited, abused, and left nothing for those to come after, but they didn't set it up themselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So when boomers came into the workforce they did not need college degrees to get ahead. After they had gotten ahead and were in charge, new employees started needing college degrees to get ahead.

And you think they didn't set it up themselves? If they didn't, who did?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After they had gotten ahead and were in charge

Chiming in that I do agree with this specific sentiment. I think the issue with your overall statement is that it seems to imply that all boomers did this, while it only applies to the ones that got ahead. The system we've been living in for ages has been creating and rewarding cutthroat psychopathic/sociopathic tendencies - so it absolutely makes sense that the people that rose up in the economic ladder abused their position accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, clearly not all boomers did this. My dad didn't go to college and is the trades. He isn't making any rules about people needing college.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'm all for hating the boomers. If you want to blame the disappearance of American manufacturing and the weakening of organized labor on Boomers, I'm all for that. They availability of higher education for the masses to the point where a college degree became a barrier to entry is something that came about thanks to the prosperity boom after WWII. Remember yuppies? Those fuckers were boomers enjoying the advantages their parents and socialist reforms laid at their feet.

So no. Boomers didn't make college a barrier to entry, but they did milk their good fortune and left very little for those that came after them.